Coachwatch - Black Monday & 2018 Off Season

**GOTA** · 09-11-2017, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Lewis is only 59, a little young to retire. The Bengals may not resign him, or another team may not hire him, but it's my feeling he will want to continue his career if just to prove he can win a playoff game... Bc

I could see Marvin being a hot DC hire next year. Maybe he goes to Minnesota or Washington to play for his former coordinators? He's a popular guy

**WrongBaldy** · 09-11-2017, 11:49 AM

pagano has the deck against him.
luck out, O line injuries (c,T), D injuries, bad picks

**Bhcforlife** · 09-11-2017, 12:00 PM

I don't think O'Brien is in any real danger. Never had a losing record with the Texans, playoffs the past two years, playing with a rookie QB now. Unless they just bottom out completely, I think he's pretty secure.

**stevez51** · 09-11-2017, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

Marvin gotta be on the hot seat this year... his players looked like they gave up mid-way through the game yesterday.

Marvin gave up more than his players did .......

**moose10101** · 09-11-2017, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by stevez51

Marvin gave up more than his players did .......

Indeed. Down 20-0, 9 minutes left, in Ravens' territory ... and punt. Whiskey Tango?

**Jsmoove** · 09-11-2017, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by stevez51

Marvin gave up more than his players did .......

yup.

**Goode05** · 09-11-2017, 03:30 PM

I think at least three out of the 4 are fired only one safe might be Gruden. Honestly it would be best for D.C. To get a top 10 pick and let Cousins go. No way I'd pay him 30 million a year

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**esmd** · 09-11-2017, 03:33 PM

Even mentioning John Harbaugh as a possibility at this point is ridiculous. He'd have to have a repeat of 2015 for that to even be a possibility.

**BcRaven** · 09-11-2017, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

I could see Marvin being a hot DC hire next year. Maybe he goes to Minnesota or Washington to play for his former coordinators? He's a popular guy

GOTA, good points. I think he was originally hired prematurely because of the Ravens vaunted defense. Marvin is a good man "YES", and good DC "YES", but IMO he has never been a really good Head Coach... Bc

**JimZipCode** · 09-11-2017, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Marvin is a good man "YES", and good DC "YES", but IMO he has never been a really good Head Coach.

I disagree so strongly with that opinion that I have trouble being polite about it.

Check out the Bengals record from the 12 seasons before Marvin got there, and compare it with the Marvin era. Marvin created a functional NFL franchise where none existed before. He's proven to be a great HC; and if the Steelers don't cheap-shot Carson Palmer's knee in his first postseason game after the 2005 season, we wouldn't be talking about Marvin's playoff record.

If Marvin becomes unemployed this offseason, there are 10 NFL teams that should be rushing to be the first one to call him. Probably won't happen that way: this is the same league where Marty Schottenheimer got fired three times, and some people don't think he belongs in the Hall of Fame. But just because there is rampant stupidity in the NFL, does not mean Marvin is not an excellent Head Coach.

**steelerhater** · 09-11-2017, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

No coach gets fired because of game 1 however if they did then Pagano should be gone. That Indy team just didn't come out to play. It wasn't just the horrible QB play. The defense was also destroyed by Jared Goff. In one offseason Goff went from Kyle Boller to Brett Favre. That doesn't happen against a real defense.

I feel the same about the Houston team that I saw yesterday. Talk about a team not prepared on both sides of the ball. They looked like they didn't even practice this summer.

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**BcRaven** · 09-11-2017, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by JimZipCode

I disagree so strongly with that opinion that I have trouble being polite about it.

Check out the Bengals record from the 12 seasons before Marvin got there, and compare it with the Marvin era. Marvin created a functional NFL franchise where none existed before. He's proven to be a great HC; and if the Steelers don't cheap-shot Carson Palmer's knee in his first postseason game after the 2005 season, we wouldn't be talking about Marvin's playoff record.

If Marvin becomes unemployed this offseason, there are 10 NFL teams that should be rushing to be the first one to call him. Probably won't happen that way: this is the same league where Marty Schottenheimer got fired three times, and some people don't think he belongs in the Hall of Fame. But just because there is rampant stupidity in the NFL, does not mean Marvin is not an excellent Head Coach.

Jimmy, check out Marvin Lewis' record since he got to Cincy : 14 years, 7 playoffs (50% of his tenure), and ZERO playoff wins! Do you think any other NFL franchise would allow that for such a long period? I don't, and his overall regular season record is 118 - 103 (.531). Your "Check out the Bengals record from the 12 seasons before Marvin got there, and compare it with the Marvin era" is so archaic that I don't even know how to respond to it... Bc