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07-25-2017, 08:41 AM #37
Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
Yeah not sure why the market size matters. San Antonio isn't a huge market and has been a consistently good team for 20 years.
IMO the difference between the NBA and the NFL is that NFL teams usually are built through the draft. Trades are rare.
I do give GSW credit for drafting Green, Thompson and Curry. What pisses me off is KD signing with them. Now, he was obviously within his right to sign with whomever he chooses. But it definitely ruined the competitiveness around the league. They're ridiculous and anything less than winning the next 3 championships (barring injuries) would be disappointing.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL - remember when the Eagles built the "Dream team" in 2011, signing Asomugha, Rodgering-Cromartie, Babin, etc. How'd that work out? 8-8. Teams in the NFL and NBA are simply built differently.
In any sport there will be powerful teams, but the way they're built in the NBA is different than most sports.
So, yes there have always been super teams, but the difference is how they were built. Even the Celtics were built differently because htey traded assets to land Ray Allen and KG. Lebron started it by having him and Bosh sign in Miami and then KD went over the top IMO. Like fuck GS already had a ring and almost had another if it wasn't for Lebron.
Look at the 80's Lakers:
- Traded for Kareem
- Drafted Magic
- Drafted Worthy
- Traded for Scott
IMO it's the free agency building that has limited the NBA's competitiveness.
I also agree that having 7 game series limits the upsets. Take the Giants for example, would they have beat NE twice in 7 game series? I personally don't think so."Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
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Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
They've got Derrick Rose now so they'll be aight...
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07-25-2017, 09:05 AM #39
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Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
Kyrie is good but he's not build around me I'm the number 1 guy good, he disappears during games, he plays zero defense and one player can take him out of a game. That's not a true number 1 star player in the NBA. he is a very good to great number 2 guy, a support player in a support role, Cavs won with and without Kyrie, Cavs can't go nowhere without Lebron.
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07-25-2017, 09:05 AM #40
Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
D-Rose was actually not horrible last year. I think playing in an offense with Lebron would actually help him. Lebron can be the catalyst driving the lane and kicking the ball out.
In NY and CHI that was Rose's role. Melo would sit out and wait for an open shot. Swithc those around and Rose can be more effective at this stage of his career.
Kyrie is obviously a far better player, but I like D-Rose"Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
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07-25-2017, 09:06 AM #41
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Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
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07-25-2017, 08:56 PM #44Rookie Poster
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Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
The Lakers did have some luck. Didn't they get the first overall pick from Cleveland during the Ted Stepien Error? The Byron Scott trade was risky, but paid off in the end. They traded Norm Nixon to get Scott. Nixon was an all star level point guard, on a team that had Magic, but having Nixon allowed the Lakers to use Magic in many unique ways. People remember Magic playing center against the Sixers in Game 6 of the 1980 Finals, but this never happens if they don't have Nixon to run the point while Magic played center. The Nixon/Scott trade probably cost the Lakers the championship in 1984, as Nixon was an all star level player at that time, and Scott was far from that in 1984. However, the trade paid off later in the decade, as Scott became an integral part of those last two championship teams, at a time when injuries had pretty much finished Nixon.
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07-27-2017, 02:56 AM #45
Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
Oh I completely agree that Lebron is what makes the Cavs able to compete. But to say not to build around him imo isn't quite right in the aspect of what the NBA is, I mean, how many players can you really build around in this league that play PG. I would easily take him over Westbrook, I think we get skewed a bit because Kyrie plays with Lebron and doesn't take on the normal duties of a PG, I will however agree about his defense, which not too many 'superstar PGs' play defense these days.
You could do a lot worse than Kyrie building a team, but I am all for him leaving and doing his own thing.
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Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
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07-27-2017, 07:55 AM #47
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07-27-2017, 08:18 AM #48
Re: OT: Kyrie Irving requests a trade?
Except he doesn't have to be taking 3's.
Watch the defense when Lebron drives. He draws 2-3 guys just baout everytime.
What does that do? Pulls the defense out of position. Rose is nto a good 3 shooter, but he shot pretty well from mid-range last year.
A kick out against a defense out of position means you can shoot right away, take a few dribbles and pull up (Which was always a strong suit of Rose is whole career, his pull up jumper at the elbow), drive it into the paint without going to the hoop, etc.
I used the Melo example becuase he's a spot up shooter. Doesn't mean he has to be a spot up shooter.
What I'm saying is Rose doesn't need to run the offense and be the bowling ball in the paint."Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
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