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  1. #25

    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense



    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    You don't want to go down this road.

    It has already been proven that they spend higher picks on defense than on offense over time.

    You are supporting a losing argument.

    Please tell us why you didn't include 2014 and 2013...





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    2014, when we spent 5/9 picks on the offense, and 2013 when we spent 4/9?





  2. #26

    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Still pales in comparison to defensive draft investment.

    Again, you are advancing a losing argument

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    You can set an arbitrary end point wherever you want. Fact is no matter what metric you choose, the disparity isn't half as bad as yall make it out to seem.

    I'm also fine with spending disproportionately to create one elite unit as opposed to two pretty decent ones, but thats a different argument





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    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by NjRavensFan View Post
    2014, when we spent 5/9 picks on the offense, and 2013 when we spent 4/9?
    So to you, drafting 4-7th rders on offense is equal to 1-3 rders on defense?

    Quantity is more important than quality?

    That's any interesting position to take given that bust rates increase from Rd 1 to 7.



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    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by NjRavensFan View Post
    You can set an arbitrary end point wherever you want. Fact is no matter what metric you choose, the disparity isn't half as bad as yall make it out to seem.

    I'm also fine with spending disproportionately to create one elite unit as opposed to two pretty decent ones, but thats a different argument
    And it's not nearly as even as you imply.

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  5. #29

    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    I've placed the total amount of offensive cap hit per team next to the player that you mentioned. The average of the non-Ravens teams is $90MM. More than the Ravens, although not by much. Again, I'm not saying the Ravens have done well with their cap spending on offense. All I'm saying is that they are not abandoning the offense, at least by how much they spend on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post

    Andrew Luck
    $24,594,000 $84MM

    Drew Brees
    $24,250,000 $85MM


    Kirk Cousins
    $23,943,600 $98MM


    Joe Flacco
    $22,133,333 $85MM

    Aaron Rodgers
    $22,000,000 $92MM


    Russell Wilson
    $21,900,000 $77MM


    Ben Roethlisberger
    $21,850,000 $105MM


    Carson Palmer
    $21,000,000 $92MM

    Eli Manning
    $21,000,000 $76MM

    Philip Rivers
    $20,812,500 $93MM

    Cam Newton
    $20,760,000 $93MM

    Matt Ryan
    $20,750,000 $93MM

    Tom Brady
    $20,500,000 $86MM





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    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by NjRavensFan View Post
    You can set an arbitrary end point wherever you want. Fact is no matter what metric you choose, the disparity isn't half as bad as yall make it out to seem.

    I'm also fine with spending disproportionately to create one elite unit as opposed to two pretty decent ones, but thats a different argument
    First 3 round in last 6 draft is 14 defense and 4 offense.

    In that time we have also signed players like Jefferson Canty weddle doom and refined Jimmy williams Webb etc

    Our offense has signed an old Steve Smith ben Watson and Jeremy zuttah.

    It's out of whack. Those are facts. No one knows if it's for the better yet





  7. #31

    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    And it's not nearly as even as you imply.

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    So are you saying the matter isn't entirely black and white?? Whattttttt





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    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    First 3 round in last 6 draft is 14 defense and 4 offense.

    In that time we have also signed players like Jefferson Canty weddle doom and refined Jimmy williams Webb etc

    Our offense has signed an old Steve Smith ben Watson and Jeremy zuttah.

    It's out of whack. Those are facts. No one knows if it's for the better yet
    Anyone that tries to massage the disproportionate numbers above to say something other than what it clearly shows has an agenda.

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    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    First 3 round in last 6 draft is 14 defense and 4 offense.

    In that time we have also signed players like Jefferson Canty weddle doom and refined Jimmy williams Webb etc

    Our offense has signed an old Steve Smith ben Watson and Jeremy zuttah.

    It's out of whack. Those are facts. No one knows if it's for the better yet
    Prior to that we added Flacco, Rice, and Oher in the top two rounds in a two year stretch. Aren't arbitrary cutoffs fun!

    FA includes an additional 1000 yard receiver as well (and Danny Woodhead!)

    We've also won six playoff games and a SB in that stretch so...





  10. #34

    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Anyone that tries to massage the disproportionate numbers above to say something other than what it clearly shows has an agenda.

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    My agenda is I'm fine with the way the Ravens have constructed their roster, and I'm excited to watch them play football this season. Watch out for this guy!





  11. #35

    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Who tf is Jimmy Williams?





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    Re: Ravens spend way more cap money on offense than defense

    Quote Originally Posted by NjRavensFan View Post
    Prior to that we added Flacco, Rice, and Oher in the top two rounds in a two year stretch. Aren't arbitrary cutoffs fun!

    FA includes an additional 1000 yard receiver as well (and Danny Woodhead!)

    We've also won six playoff games and a SB in that stretch so...
    Pointless going back much further than 4 years because we rarely keep our own draft picks anymore. Who drafted recently has got one, Jimmy? Williams? Think that's it. Before that your talking flacco Webb yanda pitta





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