Alex Lewis at C?

**Goode05** · 05-15-2017, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by BlackBeak

Great post! Eisenburg made a point with the seeming new emphasis he says the Ravens have on getting size. Seems like a consequence of going with the zone scheme was getting smaller, and the smaller guys getting beat up by the big D-linemen in the NFL.

Sounds like the team is getting sick of it. Go back to power football and be the bully rather than the bullied.

That's fine and great but when you have to average backs you're not going to go out and pound teams into submission. What happens if the Defense isn't as good as the hype and you need to throw to win? Below average WRs with a poor pass blocking line is trouble

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**BlackBeak** · 05-15-2017, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Goode05

That's fine and great but when you have to average backs you're not going to go out and pound teams into submission. What happens if the Defense isn't as good as the hype and you need to throw to win? Below average WRs with a poor pass blocking line is trouble

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I God. I forgot you were hear trolling the board still

**Goode05** · 05-15-2017, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by BlackBeak

I God. I forgot you were hear trolling the board still

Is this English?

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**BlackBeak** · 05-15-2017, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Goode05

Is this English?

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You make my point so well

**leachisabeast** · 05-15-2017, 10:06 AM

Ronnie-Elemunor/Siragusa-Mangold-Yanda-Lewis

Doesn't look too bad on paper as long as it's power man blocking scheme and everyone is on board with the scheme.

Mangold hasn't had the best two seasons of his career, but after further research into it, he hasn't allowed a sack in over 30 games.

**Goode05** · 05-15-2017, 10:06 AM

I couldn't decipher your point

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**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 05-15-2017, 01:00 PM

If we could add Mangold and Franklin I think we'd be solid.

TBH - I think that's almost an ugprade over last year. Wagner is better than Franklin, but I dont think it's astronomical. I do think Mangold would be an upgrade over Jeremy Turnstile.

**sawraven1** · 05-15-2017, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

If we could add Mangold and Franklin I think we'd be solid.

TBH - I think that's almost an ugprade over last year. Wagner is better than Franklin, but I dont think it's astronomical. I do think Mangold would be an upgrade over Jeremy Turnstile.

Where I will agree Franklin and Mangold sure look like an up grade over Jensen and Urschel I don't at all get how anyone thinks that duo would be better than Wagner and Zuttah

Last year Zuttah was ranked I think 13th at the Center position
Wagner was ranked #2 at RT I believe

I couldn't find Franklin ranked anywhere last year
Mangold was ranked like 25th among Centers.

I am all for Franklin and Mangold but on paper it still looks like position regression and a step back.

Its like comparing Kamar Aiken to STeve Smith. I just don't see the comparison and excitement.

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 05-15-2017, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by sawraven1

Where I will agree Franklin and Mangold sure look like an up grade over Jensen and Urschel I don't at all get how anyone thinks that duo would be better than Wagner and Zuttah

Last year Zuttah was ranked I think 13th at the Center position
Wagner was ranked #2 at RT I believe

I couldn't find Franklin ranked anywhere last year
Mangold was ranked like 25th among Centers.

I am all for Franklin and Mangold but on paper it still looks like position regression and a step back.

Its like comparing Kamar Aiken to STeve Smith. I just don't see the comparison and excitement.

If you think Zuttah was good for this team and justified in his rank, well that's your prerogative but that seems far fetched.

Zuttah sucked.

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**sawraven1** · 05-15-2017, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

If you think Zuttah was good for this team and justified in his rank, well that's your prerogative but that seems far fetched.

Zuttah sucked.

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I have never been a big Zuttah fan but he didn't deserve anywhere near the bashing he got on this board.

The guy played like a Raven. He gave it his all, he played hurt, and he gutted out games last year where he probably should not have played. Last season he earned my respect as a player.

Was he great ? NO, but he is better than anything on this roster currently and possibly better than Mangold who ranked last year near the bottom at his position.

Mangold was a great player at 1 point. He might not be anymore

Just saying we traded away a medicore talent, and filled it with absolutely nothing

**HbgPARavenfan** · 05-15-2017, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

If we could add Mangold and Franklin I think we'd be solid.

TBH - I think that's almost an ugprade over last year. Wagner is better than Franklin, but I dont think it's astronomical. I do think Mangold would be an upgrade over Jeremy Turnstile.

I agree.

**NjRavensFan** · 05-15-2017, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

If we could add Mangold and Franklin I think we'd be solid.

TBH - I think that's almost an ugprade over last year. Wagner is better than Franklin, but I dont think it's astronomical. I do think Mangold would be an upgrade over Jeremy Turnstile.

That's not even factoring in internal improvement from the two second year guys.