The John or Jim Harbaugh Thread (split from 2017 Training Camp thread)

**HbgPARavenfan** · 07-31-2017, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by HotInHere

The other thing Kap had when he was successful was the #8 all-time leading rusher in NFL history behind him, a weapon at TE, and a really good o-line. He wouldn't have any of that here.

Plus an Elite head coach

**Goode05** · 07-31-2017, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

Plus an Elite head coach

Uber elite

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**leachisabeast** · 07-31-2017, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

Plus an Elite head coach

0-2 against our harbs

**Jay D83** · 07-31-2017, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

0-2 against our harbs

Beat me to it.

**Goode05** · 07-31-2017, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

0-2 against our harbs

If you honestly think John is a better coach then Jim there's not much I can say..........

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**Goode05** · 07-31-2017, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

0-2 against our harbs

Flacco >>>>> Kap

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**wickedsolo** · 07-31-2017, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Goode05

If you honestly think John is a better coach then Jim there's not much I can say..........

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It depends on what circumstance that you're talking about.

Offensive coaching? Play calling? Play design?

It's not even close - it's Jim all the way.

Motivation, functioning as a CEO, managing every aspect of the team, being someone you can trust in front of the media and a wide group of people - John Harbaugh, all day.

**HotInHere** · 07-31-2017, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Goode05

If you honestly think John is a better coach then Jim there's not much I can say..........

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Then there's not much you can say.

Jim had three good years in San Fran, but the team dropped to 8-8 and they were headed for a crash. Jim is a great college coach. He will never be a great NFL coach. He does not work and play well with others. If John had jumped ship after the Super Bowl season, it would be no contest in their coaching records. But he stayed through the tough times.

Maybe you believe the 9ers with Jim would have won more than 7 games over the last two years. Maybe a few more, but not a lot more. Vince Lombardi wouldn't have been able to compete with the load of crap that has been the 49er roster for the last two seasons. Jim's record looks awesome because he left just before they went down the tank. He was smart to go back to college, because he'll never make it long-term in the NFL.

**leachisabeast** · 07-31-2017, 03:07 PM

Yeah... I'd take John over Jim as an NFL head coach. So there you go, you don't have to so much. The FWO actually think Flacco is better than Brady, so I'm not gonna say much on that...

**WrongBaldy** · 07-31-2017, 03:11 PM

jim left bc the owner was a jerk and wanted the power. he didnt jump ship bc the team was bad.
do ppl even watch/follow the NFL?

**The Excellector** · 07-31-2017, 03:25 PM

The only reason I would take John over Jim is composure. Everywhere else, I would take Jim. I believe Jim could have led the Ravens to a title. I don't believe John could have led the 49ers to a title. The only major difference was that one had Flacco and one had Kaepernick. Jim just loses his cool too much for my comfort and I saw it rub off on those 49ers teams.

**HotInHere** · 07-31-2017, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

jim left bc the owner was a jerk and wanted the power. he didnt jump ship bc the team was bad.
do ppl even watch/follow the NFL?

We are all aware that Trent Baalke is a tool. That doesn't change the fact that the team was bad and getting worse.

In Harbaugh's last year, the team dropped to 8-8. The following year, they won 5 games. Then they won 2.

Are you telling me the team would have been good if Jim stayed?