Flacco: We Don't Need Another Wideout

**Ortizer** · 06-01-2017, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Come on GWNR, you watched the games. You know it was an issue. You know much that put them behind the eight ball. And you know that since they don't have the type of talent that other teams have, they can't overcome those mistakes the way that other teams can. When you have a Beckham, you can overcome a false start, because Beckham can consistently take a five yard slant and turn it into a fifteen yard gain. The Ravens don't have that, haven't had that and are clearly not prioritizing having that. So, their margin for error is much much smaller. That's why drops matter more here. It burned me up when people would say 'Every team has drops'. Well every team doesn't have pass catchers who can take over games or even, at the very least, make up for them.

The games I watched, holding seemed to be the killer as far as penalties go.

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**wickedsolo** · 06-01-2017, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Ortizer

The games I watched, holding seemed to be the killer as far as penalties go.

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Holding was a big one. The team was pretty undisciplined in terms of committed penalties. It's been that way for the past 2 years.

**Goode05** · 06-01-2017, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Holding was a big one. The team was pretty undisciplined in terms of committed penalties. It's been that way for the past 2 years.

And always at the worst times and it seemed a good deal of them were not even play side.

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**The Excellector** · 06-01-2017, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

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**leachisabeast** · 06-01-2017, 04:38 PM

Hey, I'd take him over MM and Trestman

**Goode05** · 06-02-2017, 01:31 PM

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**bt12483** · 06-03-2017, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Goode05

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Don't worry Mike Wallace says Moore is awesome.

He'll "step up"

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**PerpetuallyBored74** · 06-03-2017, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

You based it off of what he's done with decent talent. You've never seen him with high quality pass catchers. You've never seen him with a top 5 PASS PROTECTION offensive line. You've never seen him with a pass first system built around his arm and what he excels at (Emphasizing the Sugar huddle for example). So how can you make such a broad assertion without those variables ever coming into play?

Joe had a top 5 o-line in 2014.

And the o-lines at the very beginning of his career (2008-2010) were good ones, say top 10-ish.
The ones immediately after (2011-2012) were also good until somebody got hurt, then they were average (terrible depth).

It's not a coincidence that those are the seasons when the Ravens were winning.

**leachisabeast** · 06-03-2017, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

Joe had a top 5 o-line in 2014.

And the o-lines at the very beginning of his career (2008-2010) were good ones, say top 10-ish.
The ones immediately after (2011-2012) were also good until somebody got hurt, then they were average (terrible depth).

It's not a coincidence that those are the seasons when the Ravens were winning.

They were great in the SB run too