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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
This pic of demonstrators taking over Times Square should be big to you. A guy
brought his bull horn to stir things up. This stuff is planned.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...tBJgLizufFuEXL
I dunno man, fires, over-turned dumpsters, smashed up cop cars with the above hate signs posted above, crowds pulling
down fences, cops standing in the streets is very reminiscent of Chicago riots of years ago
and more recently the Rodney King riots in California.
On FOX I even saw an old hippie with a bull horn inciting riots and wearing a t-shirt that said SDS which was Students for A Democratic Society, a commie front organization during the
Vietnam riots of the 60s and 70s. They even burned the American flag. Some things never change.
Here's another link with pic of vandals trying to burn down stores if you didn't like that one.
http://dprogram.net/2013/07/14/oakla...erman-verdict/Last edited by AirFlacco; 07-16-2013 at 02:32 AM.
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It's just a temper tantrum by the left. They've been getting their way on everything for
the last 5 years except gun control, so they don't get their way here and have their
little temper tantrum.
Did you hear what the Rev Jessie Jackson said?
He said Trayvon Martin did not get a jury of his peers. What? WEll pal, it wasn't
Trayvon Martin on trial for his life. It was Zimmerman so he gets a jury of his peers. One
juror said the only thing he was guilty of was poor judgement.
And did you guys who have been acting like he was a saint know that Martin was in
Sanford to live with his father because his mother kicked him out after he was suspended
from school-again.
And you guys should check out his text messages released back and May and brought
forth by defense council where Martin refers to himself as a "gangsta" and he talks about
his fights.
No wonder the dude just didn't go straight to his father's house but wanted a
confrontation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/24/us...rtin.html?_r=0Last edited by AirFlacco; 07-16-2013 at 02:26 AM.
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One other thing, did anyone notice that these riots didn't start on
Saturday night when the verdict came down. That's because the it was late and
media outlets weren't prepared for it that soon anyway. The main person you saw on TV
was good ole Geraldo and he only a few people behind him watching. Where were the
thousands of people?
It took some time for the networks to get these demonstations going. I mean I posted a comment about an old hippie wearing an
SDS t-shirt from the 60s inciting riots with a bull horn. He's a professional demonstrator.
Some things never change.Last edited by AirFlacco; 07-16-2013 at 02:36 AM.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
pretty much in reply to your entire post i can just say, youre taking his word for it and and ignoring/twisting things in the same way youre accusing me of. youre also arguing that i wanted a guilty verdict, which i never said i did. My opinion is based on how I see the facts of the case not unlike how you arose to yours. Im not ignoring anything, im interpreting it differently. statements like "i have no proof he lied" and "saying the dispatcher told him to stop so he returned to his car" are telling of how you feel and guilty of doing basically the same youre accusing me of. you choose to ignore the instances in which he did lie or twist things that he did do (he has been caught in lies and when told to stop, he continued walking away from his truck by his own admittance). I have no preconceived assumptions. NOBODY KNOWS HOW THE INTERACTION HAPPEN. I dont get how anybody can claim one way or another with certainty no matter how many times you tell me youre right and im wrong, that will not change.
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07-16-2013, 08:02 AM #366Veteran Poster
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I was impressed with the juror that has spoken out. It definitely seems like they were troubled by the whole incident, and it seems as if they took seriously the charges and the evidence (or lack thereof) in coming to their verdict.
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07-16-2013, 10:14 AM #367Legendary RSR Poster
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Just caught a blurb of the interview as well.
I got that same impression. I was a little disappointed that she's not going to write a book though.
I'm usually skeptical of an opportunist move that's usually associated with book deals of this nature. But there's so much disinformation out there I'd love to have a first hand account of everything.
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07-16-2013, 10:34 AM #368Veteran Poster
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I am sure one of them will sign a book deal, because I am sure there are millions like you that crave more details on this matter.
One point: As soon as a juror agrees to a book deal, I assume their identity will be known, and then everybody that has a stake in this matter will pour over that person's public and personal life in an attempt to find something (outside of the evidence presented at trial) that swayed their decision. I suspect this woman may have thought twice about that scrutiny. Can't say I blame her if that is the case. Not sure if the jurors' identities will remain secret regardless.
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07-16-2013, 12:02 PM #369Veteran Poster
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No, I actually show where the evidence corroborates. You seem to think there was no relevant evidence in the case. While there was not that much of it, and some of it was fairly questionable, none of it contradicts Zimmerman's main self-defense narrative, and most/all of it corroborates it.
And as for you not wanting a guilty verdict, then I guess I am confused as to what you want or what we are arguing about. Are all the people that are "disappointed" in the verdict simply saying they are "disappointed" that there wasn't any evidence disproving Zimmerman's defense? And if so, why, if what really happened was Zimmerman acted in self-defense? Are you arguing that Zimmerman was guilty of the crime he was accused of but that there was not enough evidence to support a guilty verdict? If so, what "evidence" are you using to justify your feelings? Do you see what I am saying here?
No, I am not "doing the same thing as you." I am constraining myself to the limited evidence. It is not a matter of opinion that the dispatcher did not order Zimmerman to stay in his car. It is a fact. A fact verbalized by the dispatcher himself in official testimony; yet here you are saying that whether an order was given is debatable and a matter of opinion.
No one knows exactly how the incident played out. But we do know some things about how the incident played out, and the few relevant things we know corroborate Zimmerman's story. Like I said, people have to go way, way farther out of their way trying to claim Zimmerman was guilty of the crime he was accused of than the reverse. The question, to me, is why are people doing that? But I guess I don't care enough to keep this up.
We can agree to be confused by each others' stances. :)
EDIT: I guess a better way for me to express my opinion is:
If there were no witnesses to a fight where one person was on top of the other swinging, and
If the forensic evidence showed no (2-4 inch) gap between Martin's shirt and his chest when the bullet was fired, and
If there was no evidence that many minutes went by after Zimmerman lost sight of Martin before the confrontation occurred, and
If Martin had a single bruise anywhere on his face or body.....
Then I would be saying that I thought (not knew) Zimmerman was guilty of the crime he was accused of, and still unsure if the jury would agree with me.
And I might only really need the first two conditions to be true (they are the two most important, to me) to feel that way.Last edited by Haloti92; 07-16-2013 at 12:24 PM.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
More to the story...
http://drudgereport.com/flashrj.htm
JEANTEL WARNED ZIMMERMAN COULD BE GAY RAPIST
TRAYVON: NOT THAT KIND OF WAY
Tue Jul 16 2013 11:55:00 ET
Last night Trayvon Martin's friend Rachel Jeantel gave CNN her first interview since testifying in the George Zimmerman murder trial.
Jeantel opened up and let loose on the murder case that gripped that nation.
She explained to CNN's Piers Morgan how she warned her childhood friend that Zimmerman -- could be a gay rapist!
MORGAN: You felt that there was no doubt in your mind from what Trayvon was telling you on the phone about the creepy ass cracka and so on, that he absolutely believed that George Zimmerman, this man, you didn't know who he was at the time, but this man, was pursuing him?
JEANTEL: Yes.
MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?
JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every -- who's not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?
She continued:
"And people need to understand, he didn't want that creepy ass cracker going to his father or girlfriend's house to go get -- mind you, his little brother was there. You know -- now, mind you, I told you -- I told Trayvon it might have been a rapist."
Martin: Why you following me for
Zimmerman: What are you doing here
Martin: You got a problem?
Zimmerman: No, I don't have a problem
Martin: You do now.
Seem possible?
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07-16-2013, 01:41 PM #371Legendary RSR Poster
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I cannot watch the news anymore.
They are clearly going with the "Tell the Biggest Lie, the more People Will Believe It" approach to all of this. They are flat out lying about what was in evidence and what was not. They are willfully stocking the fans of race to get ratings at this point. Ad it doesn't matter the network -- Fox, CNN, MSNBC -- all of them are doing in some shape and form.
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