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Thread: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up
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05-11-2013, 09:23 PM #13
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05-11-2013, 09:43 PM #14Veteran Poster
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Which is it? The military is on alert for every possible threat or they don't even have a refueling tanker on standby? And why was Hicks told a jet likely was not coming due to the fear of offending the Libyan government along with the reason of a tanker not being available? And what forces were General Ham referring to when he said he had forces ready but was never given the order to send them?
What we know is that the military was told they could not get involved (this order came from on high and early). Any subsequent excuse or reason they give is suspect considering this fact/order and the obvious reality that without such an excuse they would be left saying "we didn't do all we could for our people."
As for intelligence, we had people on the ground in communication and an overhead drone. We also aren't dealing with SAM batteries, enemy air force or any credible army in such situations.
This idea that we need 100% confirmed intelligence and 0% risk profile in order to mount a rescue effort against a terrorist attack is embarrassing if it is the current state of our military. But I doubt that is the case at all.
And even then, as I said and as will never stop being true, no one knew when this attack would end. After the fact statements of "wouldn't have got there in time" are nonsense. No one knew that at the time they were ruling out military intervention. Woods and Doherty were killed 7 hours after the attack commenced.Last edited by Haloti92; 05-11-2013 at 10:26 PM.
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05-12-2013, 08:53 AM #15Veteran Poster
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Totally agree. Had this been an accidental plane crash that killed 4 diplomats, the NTSB would have launched a full investigation to determine what happened, why, and, most importantly, to identify actions that could be done to prevent a similar incident in the future.
The fact that the administration instead chose to deflect responsibility on an obscure YouTube blogger borders on criminal negligence.
And where is the so-called 4th Estate in all this? In bed with one of the political parties.
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OBY is feeling the heat too. He's crying in this pic. He knows he's in trouble and there
are even impeachment mumblings in Congress especially the house. The DEM controlled
Senate would never let it happen but there might be enough votes in the house to
get impeachment w/o removal ala Clinton.
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/tear-ru...170209867.htmlLast edited by AirFlacco; 05-13-2013 at 08:11 PM.
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05-13-2013, 03:53 PM #17Legendary RSR Poster
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Obama is not going to get impeached.
There's no evidence to suggest he was ever in on anything related to it. This all points to Hillary.
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Youre probably right but never say never. While most of this is about Hilly, it's about
OBY too and don't forget the IRS going after Conservatives. That was a Cincinnati
Office mistake but it leads up to the WH, just like Benghazi.
As President Ford said, Congress can impeach on whatever they vote for and GOP
controls the house and still has votes in the Sentate. More evidence is being discovered
every day. One can be impeached for a misdemeanor depending how embarrassing it
is and how much the public wants it, so there's enough to possibly impeach him for
gross negligence as our leader.
In the case of Clinton the public wanted it and there were enough votes to remove him but
GOP didn't want to because Gore would have been the incumbent running vs W and
incumbents usually win like OBY just did. You saw how close the Gore vote was so
it's safe to say he would have won had he been the incumbent. Unlike Tricky Dick who
was never lucky, Slick Willie can count his lucky stars he wasn't removed.
Never say never.
http://stop-obama-now.net/offense/Last edited by AirFlacco; 05-13-2013 at 08:10 PM.
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If they wont or wouldnt impeach over Fast and Furious, then I doubt they'll go after him on this one.
They're going to let Hillary fall on this grenade.
I still find it rather incredible how much information is mishandled, garbled, and flat out ignored by leadership. Happens far too much IMO.
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Not to mention the public like in the case of Holder. The public just didn't want it unlike with Nixon and Clinton. They probably won't want it with OBY either. He has 9 lives of a cat.
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05-14-2013, 07:36 AM #21Regular 1st Stringer
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Maybe a little bit of a tangent, but I wonder if this is because nowadays there is too much information. Does it get garbled because it comes in so fast and in such volume (probably at the insistence of highers) instead of being worked some first and presented more clearly and concisely? And, of course, there is the competition to be the first one to tell highers something which often results in wrong first reports.
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05-16-2013, 01:51 AM #22
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Master of 'Gifs for dummies'
"The world called for wetwork, and we answered. No greater good. No just cause." - Kazuhira Miller
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05-16-2013, 01:55 AM #23
Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up
Master of 'Gifs for dummies'
"The world called for wetwork, and we answered. No greater good. No just cause." - Kazuhira Miller
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05-16-2013, 10:19 AM #24Legendary RSR Poster
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I understand changes that occur on the ground and within the hours after the attack.
But that's not what happened here. Changes in talking points, event details, etc occurred at a much higher level some 60+ hours after the attack AND after 90% of the info was already collected.
Take a look at the email exchanges between the Director and the WH. It's very clear these are not SitRep changes. These are politically motivated changes.
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