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01-25-2013, 01:02 PM #61Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
I love Joe and I'm more than happy with him being here for the rest of his career.
But the way some flip out whenever someone mentions Ryan is pretty funny. Dude is a hell of a QB.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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01-25-2013, 01:07 PM #64Legendary RSR Poster
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01-25-2013, 01:10 PM #65Regular 1st Stringer
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01-25-2013, 01:13 PM #67
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01-25-2013, 01:15 PM #68
Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
Easy, because those variables that go into individual stats in football, that we've been talking so much about? Those variables are all about the TEAM. That's why as an individual stat it isn't effective in judgment, but for the team, it's very effective. Predicting wins is also a TEAM-BASED judgment. So stats are relevant.
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01-25-2013, 01:17 PM #69Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
This. This is what it's all about. Ryan looked scared as hell against Seattle, on the possession AFTER he threw the pick that got Seattle back into the game. Atlanta got the ball back, leading by one score, and needing a drive to re-take control of the game and swing momentum back into their favor. The camera zoomed in on Ryan's face before the first snap of the drive, and his eyes looked wide and frightened. Like a deer, staring into the oncoming headlights, blind and lost.
The result? A three-and-out, which ultimately gave Seattle the ball back and kept them in the game. Shit, even if they pick up a few first downs and punt, it's better than a three-and-out. The way it played out was even worse - Ryan's passes died on him, I distinctly remember him short-hopping a throw on an 8-yard-out.
In the stat book, it just shows up as an incompletion. On the field of play, where the legends of great players are written, it shows up as a man failing to rise to the occasion.
Contrast this with Flacco, who has routinely put game-on-the-line balls in his receivers' hands, only to be let down time and time again. And he still keeps coming, he never loses confidence. And here he is, on the precipice of greatness, and still he is compared to a fraud like Ryan - a regular season indoor player from the NFC.
In a few years, when Flacco has proven himself as one of the dominant QBs of the AFC, people that love their stats will forget how much they trashed him. The talking heads and the pundits will praise him, while they talk shit on some new under-the-radar up-and-comer. But I won't forget.
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Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
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Re: NFL.COM Top Quarterbacks under 30
He is a good QB. I don't think he's as good as Flacco, but I think one can make a reasonable argument either way. Flacco may not put up the numbers in the regular season that Ryan has, but there are factors outside their personal abilities that affect those numbers.
I think if Atlanta had chosen Flacco and we ended up with Ryan here in Baltimore we would not have had the same success we've had with Flacco.
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