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Thread: Dropped passes
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12-20-2012, 01:15 AM #38Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Dropped passes
I don't agree with the dropped numbers either. A dropped pass is subjective and if you change the definition, it would change the entire results of the dropped passes list.
I look at completion as it relates to completion/targets. Of course, using that metric isn't reliable to know how well a receiver is doing, since a target doesn't mean it is catchable.
I have the added benefit of being able to go back to a game, and filtering out and watching all plays where Torrey is targeted, and the pass is incomplete. Then I can get a picture of whether or not it is catchable, overthrown, defended, etc..
You also can't correlate targets with drops. 4 drops in 98 targets sounds amazing, until you know that only 44 of the 98 (I actually came up with 99) targets were completed. That's a drastic difference even taking into consideration throw-aways, overthrows, defended passes or PI calls. To say that Torrey has 4 drops in 98 targets doesn't mean anything, because I guarantee you there were more than 4 "catchable" balls in the 45/99 incomplete passes where he was targeted.
Just for an idea of completions by targets, here's a chart:
While you can't necessarily use this as a 'Who is most reliable' chart, it does give you a general idea of where we are more efficient, and when a specific receiver is targeted whether it will end up being complete or not.
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12-20-2012, 08:21 AM #39
Re: Dropped passes
Our receivers struggle to get separation in this offense, especially against press coverage, so when they drop a pass the impact is magnified, especially since it tends to happen on 3rd down.
It also seems like we have streaks where we drop nothing for a few games then have that one game with 5 or 6 drops.
When this offense implodes, everyone gets in on the act: QB, WR, TE, OL, RB, Coaches.
With this team, when it rains it pours.
Buckets.
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12-20-2012, 08:34 AM #41Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Dropped passes
lol only 5 targets to torrey smith in the short middle. what a joke.
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12-20-2012, 11:45 AM #43Regular 1st Stringer
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This is for the year, up to the Denver game...
The 1 target for Rice was only deep right.. we don't send him deep right too often :)
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12-20-2012, 12:02 PM #44
Re: Dropped passes
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12-20-2012, 12:27 PM #46Veteran Poster
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Re: Dropped passes
The targets are broken down by distance. I don't recall more than one deep attempt to Rice (this year). As for overall attempts to Rice, the charts show has 76 targets. It shows 18 Short Left, 25 Short Middle, 32 Short Right. That also seems correct to me. I don't see any attempts that were obviously missed.
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