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12-11-2012, 01:09 PM #37
Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
The title of this thread should read, "The Ravens need to build around Ray Rice."
He's one of, if not, THE MOST versitile and explosive backs in the NFL. The offense should go through him. Joe hasn't proven he's worthy of building a team around him, IMO.
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12-11-2012, 01:09 PM #38
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12-11-2012, 01:26 PM #39Pro Bowl Poster
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12-11-2012, 01:29 PM #40Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Wes Welker is a no name WR? Gronkowski? Hernandez? The best OL of the past decade? Yeah, okay. Brady sure has no talent around him!
Of the QBs you mentioned (Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger) ALL of them have a ton of help. Brady, I already mentioned. Rodgers has the best WR corps in the NFL and one of the best play-callers in the league. Peyton Manning has never played a down without an incredible supporting cast (Harrison, Wayne, Edge James, Dallas Clark, and now Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas). Brees has Jimmy Graham, Colston, a stable of great RBs, and a good OL (and he's still struggling this year partly because they aren't getting their running game going). Roethlisberger has had top 5 defenses and a good supporting cast on offense.
I think you'd be very hard pressed to say that the Ravens OL, WR, and TE personnel are top 10 for their position in the NFL. I'm not even sure WR and TE are even in the top half of the league in terms of production and upside. Yes, the Ravens have a top 5 RB but he's been underused and misused far too much. And when they try to run the offense exclusively through him, it's just too easy for defenses to key in on him and shut him down.
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12-11-2012, 01:46 PM #43
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Brady and Manning are rarely sacked. Is that because their offensive lines are incredible, or because the QB is decisive and gets the ball out fast? How good is Wes Welker away from Brady? Brady still had a great offense when he was throwing the ball to a slew of ex- Florida Gator WRs who couldn't catch on anywhere else. Also, who have the Patriots had at RB? Danny Woodhead? Really? How good has the Steelers OL been for years? They have been pretty bad, but the Steelers continued to have very good offenses. For the last time, I think Flacco is a very good QB, who is good enough to win a Super Bowl with, but if the Ravens pay him what he wants, he is not good enough to make up for lesser talent that they will have in other areas due to the percentage of the cap that he will command.
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12-11-2012, 01:51 PM #44On The Practice Squad
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
We don't have the necessarily build the offense around Flacco or Rice. We can build around both as improving the OL should also help Rice. Plus we can build an offense around Flacco where Rice is a huge part of that because Rice is versatile and very dangerous in the passing game as well. A more spread out offense can also benefit Rice as he has more open space to work with in the run game as well as after he catches the ball. Look at NE this year. Ridley and their running backs are carrying the ball a lot this season and doing pretty well while Brady is benefiting from that in the passing game.
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Does it matter?
It is a symbiotic relationship.
A stout OL gives the QB time, which gives the receivers time to get open. If the receivers get open quickly, then the QB can get the ball out quicker, so the OL doesn't have to sustain blocks for as long. If the QB gets the ball out quicker, then the receivers have more opportunities to make a play after the catch because the defensive players are still reacting.
Everything effects everything.
Brady is VERY good at getting the ball out quickly, but for many, many, many years he rarely got touched and it didn't matter how long he held onto the ball. In fact, the first time they played the Giants in the SB that was one of the biggest reasons why Brady looked so uncomfortable. He couldn't get the ball out at all because the Giants' DL was all over him.
I don't think Flacco is ever going to be a Brady or a Peyton, but he doesn't have to be...and I don't think you'd disagree with that either. Flacco is good enough to build an offense around and he is good enough to win a SB. He's led this team back several times from deficits to win games, he's played extremely well in the spotlight, and he's functioned far better in Cam's system than a lot of other QB's have.
If the Ravens run a balanced offense and use Rice properly, then the routes will open up. Flacco can get the ball out quickly, but it is hard to get the ball out quickly when your primary receivers are running go routes and can't get open.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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12-11-2012, 01:53 PM #46
Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Not bad for a RUNNING BACK!!! Now that is funny.
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12-11-2012, 01:58 PM #47On The Practice Squad
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12-11-2012, 01:58 PM #48Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
It's no coincidence that the Ravens have been winning since Flacco was drafted. I'm not saying he's the sole reason, but he's been a big part. Having a stability at the QB position is huge in the NFL. Look at the Jets this year. Their defense fell apart and now Sanchez was exposed. The Ravens defense has been terrible, and they are still on pace to win their division.
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