Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
Spider Webb
I hope our next QB is Aaron Rodgers 2.0, but a part of me wants us to be fucked some people can start to realize how fucking good Joe was.
I think most of his haters already know how good Joe "was".....that's what they are saying...he WAS good, just not anymore. They won't need the team searching for the new franchise QB to tell them that, or for Joe to go to another team and do well.
Do I think Joe is a good QB? Yes. Do I think he can still win games? Yes. Do I think his best days are behind him and he's already started his decline? also, Yes. I think he has checked out mentally, especially with his injuries and lack of help from a healthy, solid Oline for most of his career. You hear it all the time from Harbs when he speaks after the games...."We need to protect Joe better" or "Joe can't be taking that many hits"...but it ends up being the same ol same ol week in and week out. Yes, losing Yanda made the Oline that much worse, but for Joe to strive and be the best he can be, he needs more time in the pocket and not getting knocked on his ass within 3 seconds of getting the ball. We have seen what he can do when he has time in the pocket. His main problem is not having any time, making him a worse QB due to hurried throws and forced passes. Again, with all that said, he is not the QB he once was, and some of his mistakes are his alone, even when he has more time in the pocket.
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
Jsmoove
A hot ass mess and there ain’t shit they can do with him at this point. They’ve done nothing to help him and Joe don’t give a shit.
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By done everything to help him what do you mean? They have done nothing to help the offense but pick up players cut by other players during the pre season. They drafted no skill position players.
Joe has played poorly but I can't necessarily blame him when you are coming off a back injury and the middle of your line is swiss cheese. It would be better if the issue was the tackles because they could use TE to help out. It is not going to matter you put behind the line because they are going to get killed. Joe never sets his feet anymore. He was never great mechanically and now it is worse because he is anticipated getting creamed on every play.
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
srobert96
By done everything to help him what do you mean? They have done nothing to help the offense but pick up players cut by other players during the pre season. They drafted no skill position players.
Joe has played poorly but I can't necessarily blame him when you are coming off a back injury and the middle of your line is swiss cheese. It would be better if the issue was the tackles because they could use TE to help out. It is not going to matter you put behind the line because they are going to get killed. Joe never sets his feet anymore. He was never great mechanically and now it is worse because he is anticipated getting creamed on every play.
He said they have done nothing to help him....
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
Spider Webb
I think either rejuvenate with another franchise or completely change the entire coaching staff. I do a lot of things well :glasses: , but I would say by best trait is my ability to read people. Reading Flacco I just look at a guy who's like, "Are we doing this shit again. Am I trying to beat the Steelers with old man Watson, no offensive line, no running game, and one good WR in Maclin.
It was honestly disheartening to see it. Hence why the "I sucked" comments followed after the game.
I truly wonder what Joe thought when they went all defense in the draft. That may have been the final straw. I don't think Joe will last all season behind this line - One thing you can't dispute is how physically tough he is. But he is in his 30's now - he can't keep taking that pounding - maybe he is realizing that.
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
I've given up any hope for the rest of this season. I'm still gonna watch though and put myself through this misery even though they seriously might be the worst team in the NFL to watch. At least in those Billick rebuilding years when we had one of the youngest rosters in the league, we had real talented players like a young Ed Reed and we were exciting to watch, win or lose. This team is a dumpster fire though. It's tough to watch. No heart, no fight, they're just a sad group to watch play.
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
Spider Webb
I hope our next QB is Aaron Rodgers 2.0, but a part of me wants us to be fucked some people can start to realize how fucking good Joe was.
Agree here. In fact, I hope our next to next QB is Aaron Rodgers 2.0.
I actually am kind of looking forward to the distinct possibility that we draft another QB with a decent pick, and he turns out to be total shit all the time. And we spend like 2-3 years before we realize he's never going to turn it around.
And then that coaching staff/GM gets fired (whoever they are at that point), and we draft a future HOF QB after like a 3-13 season.
There are times when I think the fanbase has very much earned the right to see what real garbage looks like for a few years. The kind of garbage that will make us look back on the 2016 team and say "that 2016 team would have beaten the piss out of the time we have now". That level of bad.
And the sad thing is... most of the fans that have earned that actually have already seen what that looks like... they either ignored it, forgot about it, or just don't want to remember it. Sometimes a good reminder is in order...
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
BIGBALL
I truly wonder what Joe thought when they went all defense in the draft. That may have been the final straw. I don't think Joe will last all season behind this line - One thing you can't dispute is how physically tough he is. But he is in his 30's now - he can't keep taking that pounding - maybe he is realizing that.
He got Danny freaking Woodhead what more could he ask for
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Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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PainServer52
I've given up any hope for the rest of this season. I'm still gonna watch though and put myself through this misery even though they seriously might be the worst team in the NFL to watch. At least in those Billick rebuilding years when we had one of the youngest rosters in the league, we had real talented players like a young Ed Reed and we were exciting to watch, win or lose. This team is a dumpster fire though. It's tough to watch. No heart, no fight, they're just a sad group to watch play.
They need a coaching change
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Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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SeattleRaven
The thing is that you would never hear that kind of negative talk coming from Aaron Rodgers who is missing his two starting tackles and the O-Line is a mess. Still,he manages to elevate his game and the team to win. If Joe is so down and out then he needs to be on the bench.
Rodgers hasn't had his knee blown out.
Joe's had it happen twice.
Joe hasn't been the same since he got hurt. He looks like he's even lost a step. And he didn't have one to lose.
And Rodgers has had far better pass catchers to work with. That helps significantly to overcome poor pass protection.
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
BIGBALL
I truly wonder what Joe thought when they went all defense in the draft. That may have been the final straw. I don't think Joe will last all season behind this line - One thing you can't dispute is how physically tough he is. But he is in his 30's now - he can't keep taking that pounding - maybe he is realizing that.
So very much this yes
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
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Originally Posted by
Jsmoove
A hot ass mess and there ain’t shit they can do with him at this point. They’ve done nothing to help him and Joe don’t give a shit.
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Originally Posted by
srobert96
By done everything to help him what do you mean? They have done nothing to help the offense but pick up players cut by other players during the pre season. They drafted no skill position players.
Joe has played poorly but I can't necessarily blame him when you are coming off a back injury and the middle of your line is swiss cheese. It would be better if the issue was the tackles because they could use TE to help out. It is not going to matter you put behind the line because they are going to get killed. Joe never sets his feet anymore. He was never great mechanically and now it is worse because he is anticipated getting creamed on every play.
Reread what smoove wrote. He said they've done nothing to help, not everything.
Re: I was at the game yesterday, my two cents
Talent wins football games and for the last three years our talent has been on the operating table. The next man up mantra is bullshit.