Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Originally Posted by
CincyCat
News tonight said he had 10 suitcases. (They had to be HEAVY) That should have caught someone's attention, unless he tipped really good and they fought their instincts 100%. They will have to live with that if so.
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Originally Posted by
wickedsolo
I honestly can’t say. I’ve stayed at Mandalay before and Security was very noticeable. Cameras everywhere. There is no way he would have been able to get all of those suitcases up to his room without someone seeing it on camera. So, pretty clear negligence by Mandalay security.
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Most of the time if you act like your supposed to be doing something, no one pays any mind. it will be interesting to see more details that come out. Like we all say here, hindsight is 20/20
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Originally Posted by
usmccharles
Most of the time if you act like your supposed to be doing something, no one pays any mind. it will be interesting to see more details that come out. Like we all say here, hindsight is 20/20
If he brought the suitcases up to his room a few at a time from his car/truck, then nobody would notice. All he had to do was act normal. He is a 64 year old white guy, and so would not have been on anyone's profile list.
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Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Originally Posted by
Dirt1
If he brought the suitcases up to his room a few at a time from his car/truck, then nobody would notice. All he had to do was act normal. He is a 64 year old white guy, and so would not have been on anyone's profile list.
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Exactly my point. I doubt he was walking up there with ammo cans and gun cases
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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wickedsolo
It’s all bad right? Killing large groups of people regardless of method and reason is a tragedy of epic proportions.
We can talk about how bad this was until the next worse mass-killing happens and on-and-on.
I guess it's not the right place, but I'm trying to talk about solutions by talking about the specific problem that the US has.
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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CincyCat
I did say "Just Sayin'" I don't think banning all guns is the answer.
After I read this I was SMH. Crazy people do crazy things. Making drugs illegal didn't work, did it? If he had used a bomb would they ban bombs? I think you see where I'm going.
Banning guns is nonsense. It never will nor should happen. But by mentioning "crazy" and drugs, you've stumbled upon part of the problem.
TMK, there's no evidence that the shooter had a mental problem, but if he did, and that and access to weaponry are the primary barriers to becoming a mass-murderer...well there are ~3 million schizophrenics alone in the US.
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Originally Posted by
wickedsolo
I honestly can’t say. I’ve stayed at Mandalay before and Security was very noticeable. Cameras everywhere. There is no way he would have been able to get all of those suitcases up to his room without someone seeing it on camera. So, pretty clear negligence by Mandalay security.
Outside of your own room, if you scratch your ass in a casino and it's on tape.
I really think that from security's perspective, someone repeatedly bringing stuff in over a few days doesn't trip any mental alarms...but repeatedly taking stuff out would have.
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Originally Posted by
wickedsolo
Lot of bizarre stories out there right now about multiple shooters being observed...
And a lot of folks wondering how this guy was able to transport that many weapons up into his hotel room.
I reckon a lot of folks can't/don't want to believe that one person can cause so much carnage.
It's understandable, I guess. A bit silly considering the escalation of these mass-killings, but I get it.
LE doesn't deny it though.
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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BigPlayReceiver
Sorry. What I mean is that no other developed nation has the recursive "(often) mentally ill, native-born, male, non-terrorist (so we're told...smh), mass murderer" problem like we do.
I think the way Hollywood glorifies violence is a contributing factor. But I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with that.
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Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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BigPlayReceiver
TMK, there's no evidence that the shooter had a mental problem, but if he did, and that and access to weaponry are the primary barriers to becoming a mass-murderer...well there are ~3 million schizophrenics alone in the US.
There is a report he was prescribed anti anxiety meds this summer.
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Originally Posted by
wickedsolo
I honestly can’t say. I’ve stayed at Mandalay before and Security was very noticeable. Cameras everywhere. There is no way he would have been able to get all of those suitcases up to his room without someone seeing it on camera. So, pretty clear negligence by Mandalay security.
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Yea that's where I was going with that earlier on in this thread. Big tipper or not that's suspect. Not to play the what if game, but say that was bomb making material. 10 freaking suit cases would have taken out an entire floor of the hotel.
We are talking about million dollars of Security here folks. Not some Red dot parking lot patrol. These folks make serious money to pick up on suspicious activity. They catch people marking cards to win. All irrelevant in a sense. He did it, so how do we solve some of the problem. I have a lot of guns banning guns is not the solution, the murders will never really stop, so I guess we have to look at the next layer of how can we at least prevent the mass part. The large mag capacity and bump stock stuff has to go. If you want the thrill of doing something like that (Thrill) than do it at a controlled gun range. No need for a 100 round magazine.
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blah3
There is a report he was prescribed anti anxiety meds this summer.
14 million.
Believe it or not, in 2013 more than 14 million Americans in the 45-64 age range were prescribed anti-anxiety drugs as per https://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-...hiatric-drugs/
1 in every 6 of that demographic.
Re: This is What Happens When an Active Shooter Call Is Not a Hoax
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Sua Sponte
Yea that's where I was going with that earlier on in this thread. Big tipper or not that's suspect. Not to play the what if game, but say that was bomb making material. 10 freaking suit cases would have taken out an entire floor of the hotel.
We are talking about million dollars of Security here folks. Not some Red dot parking lot patrol. These folks make serious money to pick up on suspicious activity. They catch people marking cards to win. All irrelevant in a sense. He did it, so how do we solve some of the problem. I have a lot of guns banning guns is not the solution, the murders will never really stop, so I guess we have to look at the next layer of how can we at least prevent the mass part. The large mag capacity and bump stock stuff has to go. If you want the thrill of doing something like that (Thrill) than do it at a controlled gun range. No need for a 100 round magazine.
Was the ammonia nitrate in his car, at home? ...or in his car, parked at Mandalay?
(I haven't seen anything, but I don't know if he even drove to Mandalay. Long ride, but he may have uber'd or had a limo pick him up)
All I own is a semi handgun, but the idea of "rent-a-stock" and "rent-a-mag" is interesting.
The ones in circulation...well, probably won't be many folks turning them in, if it ever came to that.
Maybe if the USG got crazy and gave away college tuition vouchers or something.
