Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
OhThePossibilities
I'm just trying to see why it is exactly that Roy Moore gets the benefit of the doubt in that you are not willing to assume anything in his case, while others don't in your estimation.
You accuse people of giving the left a pass, but no-one in this thread has given people on the left a pass. ITT even went as far as to clarify that she sees problems in both major parties.
To say this is was a thread about Kevin Spacey and that I'm derailing it is disingenuous when you posted multiple times about people who were not Kevin Spacey before I even showed up and tried to answer your question of why the most cited of the women in the Moore allegations waited 40 years.
So I wasted all that time answering your questions? You think the crap going on in Hollywood is the same as this Moore accusation? I will say it ONE MORE TIME, I don't know if he did it or not but it's apples and oranges.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
CincyCat
So I wasted all that time answering your questions? You think the crap going on in Hollywood is the same as this Moore accusation? I will say it ONE MORE TIME, I don't know if he did it or not but it's apples and oranges.
I think all crimes of a sexual nature are serious and should be treated as such.
And I'm not willing to give people more benefit of the doubt because of some sort of team loyalty or lack of oppositional integrity.
We're talking about sex crimes. Purporting the sex crime to be indicative of some moral failing within a larger political system, which you have done in asking where the outrage for Bill Clinton was, and in lumping "Hollywood" as leaning liberal, is ridiculous. This shouldn't be about scoring political points.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
OhThePossibilities
I think all crimes of a sexual nature are serious and should be treated as such.
And I'm not willing to give people more benefit of the doubt because of some sort of team loyalty or lack of oppositional integrity.
We're talking about sex crimes. Purporting the sex crime to be indicative of some moral failing within a larger political system, which you have done in asking where the outrage for Bill Clinton was, and in lumping "Hollywood" as leaning liberal, is ridiculous. This shouldn't be about scoring political points.
You're right, you baited me into arguing politics with you on a thread about Hollywood scumbags. I guess you don't follow Politics or Hollywood since you don't seem to notice who they endorse. You were a kid when Clinton was President as you stated. I've been watching this movie for a long time and it always goes this way. Watch the alphabet networks headlines every night and you will see when it's a right leaning person, it's all they want to talk about. If it's a lefty, well, it's ok.
It's been refreshingly noteworthy that Hollywood is calling out it's own for a change. But when that is brought up people always try to distract. You were that guy. When you look in your newspaper/website isn't there a column labeled "Politics" and another labeled "Hollywood/Entertainment"? YES, they're two different things.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
Just for the record, and I didn't want to put it out there, but now I'm all emotional and triggered...
I was sexually abused as a child by my babysitter's kid. I never told anyone at the time. And my parents still don't know, because I disn't and I don't want to have to have them deal with it.
So double standards when it comes to this issue really get under my fucking skin.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
CincyCat
You're right, you baited me into arguing politics with you on a thread about Hollywood scumbags. I guess you don't follow Politics or Hollywood since you don't seem to notice who they endorse. You were a kid when Clinton was President as you stated. I've been watching this movie for a long time and it always goes this way. Watch the alphabet networks headlines every night and you will see when it's a right leaning person, it's all they want to talk about. If it's a lefty, well, it's ok.
It's been refreshingly noteworthy that Hollywood is calling out it's own for a change. But when that is brought up people always try to distract. You were that guy. When you look in your newspaper/website isn't there a column labeled "Politics" and another labeled "Hollywood/Entertainment"? YES, they're two different things.
I was not the one who brought up Roy Moore. I was not that guy. You can go back and look for yourself.
I didn't say shit in here until you said you didn't put so much weight behind the Moore accusations since the woman hadn't come out for 40 years.
I'm fucking done here.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
OhThePossibilities
Just for the record, and I didn't want to put it out there, but now I'm all emotional and triggered...
I was sexually abused as a child by my babysitter's kid. I never told anyone at the time. And my parents still don't know, because I disn't and I don't want to have to have them deal with it.
So double standards when it comes to this issue really get under my fucking skin.
I didn't know that and there's no way I could have. I'm sorry that happened to you. I wish you happiness and in no way was trying to imply anyone was innocent.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
OhThePossibilities
I was not the one who brought up Roy Moore. I was not that guy. You can go back and look for yourself.
I didn't say shit in here until you said you didn't put so much weight behind the Moore accusations since the woman hadn't come out for 40 years.
I'm fucking done here.
I will look. I was at work looking at my phone blowing up and tried to answer, but don't go all drama queen now. I made a sincere attempt to answer your questions when I got home from work.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
CincyCat
I didn't know that and there's no way I could have. I'm sorry that happened to you. I wish you happiness and in no way was trying to imply anyone was innocent.
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I will look. I was at work looking at my phone blowing up and tried to answer, but don't go all drama queen now. I made a sincere attempt to answer your questions when I got home from work.
I'm sorry that I made you the focus of my anger. I try to maintain and keep it in, which sometimes I can and others I swing wildly (not physically, I keep it to the internet) from one train of thought to another when getting into this.
There's no way you could have known what happened to me. I should have just avoided the whole thread. It's just something I try to deal with and overcome by navigating the thought processes and maintaining, but it always ends up making me angry.
I think you're probably a good guy and I commend that you've made yourself a non-trolly and good natured football presence on another team's message board.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
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Originally Posted by
OhThePossibilities
I'm sorry that I made you the focus of my anger. I try to maintain and keep it in, which sometimes I can and others I swing wildly (not physically, I keep it to the internet) from one train of thought to another when getting into this.
There's no way you could have known what happened to me. I should have just avoided the whole thread. It's just something I try to deal with and overcome by navigating the thought processes and maintaining, but it always ends up making me angry.
I think you're probably a good guy and I commend that you've made yourself a non-trolly and good natured football presence on another team's message board.
I really appreciate you saying that and I also think you are an intelligent poster and have a way of helping me understand the other side at times. I was a Democrat and socially liberal as a young guy even though my Mom (God rest her soul) made me go to church constantly.
As I get older I see this country going against what made it strong and I blame Hollywood more than anything. They are the main reason Middle Eastern countries hate us so badly. All they know is what they see on their TV's. Who can blame them?
Anyway, thanks again, and peace be with you. Feel free to PM me anytime.
Re: Kevin Spacey could end up in prison
After Weinstein: A List of Men Accused of
Sexual Misconduct and the Fallout for Each
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