Re: Is everybody really overlooking this?
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Originally Posted by
JustaslowZ06
I'm more angry about 38 seconds and a couple time outs and not even trying to move down the field to kick a game winning FG before even having to worry about OT.
I thought we only had one time-out?
Re: Is everybody really overlooking this?
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Originally Posted by
Ravenous1
HUH????
This whole post just shows a complete lack of football knowledge.
Why would you put yourself in a position to allow a TD and PAT tie the game if you miss the 2 pt conversion.
If you think the board is on a witch hunt now...geez....
Going for the 2 pt conversion there is the wrong move period the end.....it would have been an EPIC demonstration of stupidity
Unless of course, they make the 2pt, and thEn you would be on the other side of the fence
2pt conversion was the right thing to do. Same thing as what happened during the cowboys game. We just got lucky that Dan bailey missed the field goal.
Re: Is everybody really overlooking this?
I'm surprised it's been overlooked that we won the coin toss in OT and we chose to Receive rather than Punt.
Rookie QB coming off the bench - yes, I'm aware he already scored a TD on us - but you hold them to a 3 & Out and play for field position.
With the new rules, I thought that was the strategy?
Re: Is everybody really overlooking this?
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Originally Posted by
Ravenous1
HUH????
This whole post just shows a complete lack of football knowledge.
Why would you put yourself in a position to allow a TD and PAT tie the game if you miss the 2 pt conversion.
If you think the board is on a witch hunt now...geez....
Going for the 2 pt conversion there is the wrong move period the end.....it would have been an EPIC demonstration of stupidity
No, football knowledge as a coach is going along with the flow of the game. You play to win the game (pun intended). But, since we play not to lose, let's be conservative and kick the extra point.
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You're right, Harbaugh is an idiot! Let's blame him, and not the D that gave up a 90 yard drive and TD to a backup QB.
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Originally Posted by
akashicrecorder
I thought we only had one time-out?
This comment sums up our coaching staff
Re: Is everybody really overlooking this?
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Originally Posted by
JustaslowZ06
I'm more angry about 38 seconds and a couple time outs and not even trying to move down the field to kick a game winning FG before even having to worry about OT.
I was about to post this. How spineless is that? Three quick completions and you are at the edge of FG range for Tucker. Harbaugh coaches scared.
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I'm in full agreement that Harbaugh and the coaching staff made numerous mistakes. However, going for the XP in that situations is NOT one of them. There is zero, zilch, nada chance of any coach (other then maybe Belichek when he gets in one of his crazy moods) going for 2 pts in that situation. I know the Ravens played shitty, I know the coaches can be boneheads a lot and we're all frustrated as hell but going for 1 and not 2 in that situation was the correct call and not one of those mistakes.
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Haloti92
We already discussed this thoroughly when the exact same thing came up in the Dallas game. And needless to say, but the decision is not anywhere close to automatic.
Your argument/claim makes the same errors that a lot of people in that thread made, namely looking at the risk and not the reward of the other option.
I will try to find the other thread so you can look at the math and see the assumptions that have to be made in order to make going for 2 the best option. Suffice it to say that it is not always an EPIC demonstration of stupidity. Though saying it is could be an EPIC display...
Except I'm pretty sure the math doesn't back you up here. I believe the odds of converting are slightly under 50%.
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Originally Posted by
MD Boy
I'm surprised it's been overlooked that we won the coin toss in OT and we chose to Receive rather than Punt.
Rookie QB coming off the bench - yes, I'm aware he already scored a TD on us - but you hold them to a 3 & Out and play for field position.
With the new rules, I thought that was the strategy?
Agreed. If you even score a FG you dont win. The other team has a chance to win and will playing with 4 downs. YOU KICK when you win the toss. VERY STUPID TEAMS THESE RAVENS ARE.
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GaTechRavens
Except I'm pretty sure the math doesn't back you up here. I believe the odds of converting are slightly under 50%.
The math backs me, because all the math says is that there are assumptions that make the 2-pt conversion the correct call, and that is all I am saying. The assumptions required may not back the decision to go for 2 here, but that is a separate issue. The two odds one needs to consider are your own odds of making a 2 and the opponents odds of making the two. But in general I agree, my assumptions for both would lean towards kicking it, just like against Dallas. But it is relatively close, which is what I want to make sure people understand (and most do not).