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01-01-2014, 09:54 PM #121
Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
IMO, whether Caldwell stays or goes - assuming he isn't hired as a HC somewhere - will depend on whether a more experience, successful OC can be hired to replace him.
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Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
True.
Part of me still thinks they wanted Norv last year...but he had already signed with Cleveland (IIRC) before the Super Bowl.
Nothing to prove that...just a hunch. Schematically, he makes a lot of sense. And even though he runs the AC, his version has produced much more successful units than Cam's or Camwell's.
Maybe they do bring in Norv? Plus, it would put another chink in Cleveland's armor (not sure they need another though...) and Norv already has experience seeing Pittsburgh and Cinci's D.
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Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
with Lovie hired Caldwell might be the top "Rooney Rule" guy.
I just want someone to hire him to force the Ravens' hand. I don't think they will retain him regardless, but you never know with Harbaugh. Caldwell getting hired by someone else would be awesome.
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Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
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01-01-2014, 10:26 PM #128
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Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
I'm not saying he's definitely going to get hired. I'm saying in the two cases where he's being requested for interviews, it seems/seemed like it was more than just Rooney Rule satisfaction.
Of course, now I disprove my theory about neither of those situations happened. Lovie Smith is reportedly hired as next coach of the Bucs, so Lions would still need a minority candidate to interview..
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01-01-2014, 11:19 PM #129
Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
Yes.
Yes. I don't think it was a coincidence that Caldwell got his one-year extension a few days after Norv signed on in Cleveland. Although, once they won the SB with the offense looking so good, I'm not sure they could have/would have made a change.
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01-01-2014, 11:42 PM #130
Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
The Air Coryell works and has worked for us up until this year when we no longer had the personnel to make sure it worked without a hitch. Joe is the perfect guy for that style of offense. He's not overly mobile, he has a huge arm and up until this season we had the RB horses to make the important play actions worth a damn. Every offensive coordinator is, 'married' to a system. What would you like to see us start running here? A system more tailored to a QB like Brady or Peyton where they throw quick three second passes and have their receivers go for 2304023432 yards a clip? How much better do you think that will fair? The receivers we have right now make their money being faster than the defenders opposite them; it's easy to outrun the DBs with longer developing routes and more difficult when it's a quick slant (see Torrey or Jacoby on the slants they do get; YAC rarely occur there). Joe has also shown that he has a tendency to lock onto a guy; that's not going to help that style of offense either.
Brady and Peyton have made their money spreading that rock like nobody's business and having the almost immeasurable football IQ to do so with precision timing and expediency. I'm not knocking Joe but merely pointing out that his skillset is much different than those two. I mean Hell, if someone smarter than I am (the rest of this board) says they think Joe could run something like that without resorting to the muddle huddle all game I'd be all for bringing in the oft mentioned, 'young, hotshot, hungry OC who's going to take our offensive game to the limits!,'.
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Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
I don't see how it makes sense to send your receivers deep all the time when you know your receivers struggle against press man coverage . Overall your quarterback (Joe Flacco) is going to suffer under Norv Turner system because his system is base on deep routes more than anything. Norv is good offensive coordintor but the air corydell system is probably the least quarterback friendly offense in the nfl and in my opinion we need a new system or atleast a coordinator that under stands that yes we have fast receivers that can take the top off the defense but theres no need to send them deep 90% of the time.
I remember watching the chargers last year and I heard the announce say that ever since Norv Turner left Rivers has more control and change plays when he wants to. Why would we want Flacco to have less control of the offense ?
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01-02-2014, 12:16 AM #132Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Jim Caldwell to the Lions!!!?????
The Steelers run the Erhardt-Perkins system just like the Patriots. Do they look anything alike? No. The reason is that the EP system is flexible in its design. Its the route concepts that get receivers open. You run a lot out of it and thus PAP is a very successful result.
The only team that runs the Air Coryell well is the Saints, and that's only b/c Drew Brees is the most accurate deep ball passer in the league. I'm a big Joe Homer, but facts are facts, Joe can't sniff Drew's jock when it comes to deep ball accuracy.
You're right every coordinator is likely married to either the Air Coryell, Erhardt-Perkins, or the West Coast (only NFL team not running one of these schemes is the Eagles which is a true spread). I like the EP scheme b/c of its flexible in its design where you can throw deep out of it. And you won't have DBs able to bracket Torrey deep like they do in the AC, b/c they will have to respect the shorter routes. Ok, we absolutely do need to get better route runners to run the EP, but I contend if we don't get better route runners, period, no scheme will work. Our fast but shitty route runners in the AC didn't work this year.
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