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10-22-2012, 10:48 AM #73
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10-22-2012, 10:56 AM #74Hall Of Fame Poster
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10-22-2012, 10:56 AM #75Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
I really do want to see Joe be great. I think he can be great. I just don't think he has been there yet. Its a shame too because a little bit better play from Joe and the Ravens might have another Lombardi Trophy. That isn't a knock on Joe, its just reality.
Now the team looks like a shadow of what it was just a year or two ago. So the Ravens window might just be closing.
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10-22-2012, 10:56 AM #76Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
The part I hate most about road Flacco is when the going gets tough you can literally see his mind and soul vacate his body. He throws successive incomplete passes or batted balls and have that blank look in his eyes. He doesn't blink, say anything or show any sign of life. He just lethargically move to the huddle and line like a sloth that had sleeping pills and Thanksgiving dinner
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10-22-2012, 10:57 AM #77Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
lowest ever QBR rating 0.3 Joe Flacco
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10-22-2012, 11:00 AM #78Hall Of Fame Poster
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10-22-2012, 11:04 AM #79
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
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10-22-2012, 11:06 AM #80Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
You begin by acknowledging, correctly, that my explanation is only "likely," and not "undoubtedly correct."
By the end of your post, somehow the OPPOSITE explanation has become "more like(ly)." How in the world did you get there? You somehow extrapolated that because Rice "screwed up," it actually becomes JOE'S fault! Joe is supposed to recognize that because Rice went right, he should somehow be "alerted" that a blitzer was coming from the left. How in the world does that make sense? If Rice came off the left side to block right, if I'm the QB I assume it's because there was nobody to block on the left.
I know how--you've made up your mind on this issue before you've even begun to talk about it. You're doing your signature a disservice!
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10-22-2012, 11:06 AM #81Veteran Poster
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
I don't think Flacco is "elite", I agree with the "notch, or two, below great." Although it would have been nice to have this conversation if a certain WR not dropped a perfectly thrown pass, versus a another receiver who caught a pass that was wildly thrown up for grabs against his helmet.
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10-22-2012, 11:20 AM #82Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Mcnair couldn't win in the rain and Flacco can't win on the road...
Nobody is disputing that Joe had a bad game. I don't think it was literally the worst game a QB has had in the past 5 years, as ESPN is implying; I'm not even sure it was his worst game ever individually. But it was a bad, bad game.
The point is, probably moreso than any other position in football, a QB's performance is very dependent on those around him. Joe is not, and may never be, capable of individually overcoming the failures of everyone around him on offense--and that's what happened yesterday. The ONLY player on offense who seemed to be having any success was Ray Rice, and a combination of Cam forgetting about him and being down 2 scores most of the game removed him from the equation.
The corollary to that point is that the Ravens have now become a team where they CANNOT overcome Joe having a bad game. In the past, through a combination of defense and a great rushing attack, the Ravens could survive a bad performance from Joe--no longer.
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10-22-2012, 11:24 AM #83
If Ray took the wrong assignment (thus screwing up) Wouldn't Joe take notice, considering he expected rice to block a free rusher? I'm not saying it's necessarily Joe's fault that rice possibly screwed up, but it doesn't take away from the fact that he compounded Rices screw up.
Or maybe he didn't screw up and it was just the wrong guess on what the protection should be.
I've taken a position on what I believed happened. I think it's safe to say you've done the same. Quit moralizing like your approaching it with any more objectivity. Your speculation weighs as much as mine.“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
–Eleanor Roosevelt
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10-22-2012, 11:34 AM #84
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