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12-11-2012, 11:59 AM #25
Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
If Lee Evans holds onto that ball, we're not having this conversation. So this notion that Joe Flacco cannot carry the team in and through the playoffs isn't completely true. That's my issue with all this talk that Joe isn't this, or isn't that. He was good enough to travel to Foxboro and put the ball in the chest of a receiver in the endzone to win the game.
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
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12-11-2012, 12:08 PM #27Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Dirt1... Have you've seen Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson play? I like Tyler a little better but neither is remotely capable of what RG3 and Luck can do or even Wilson. Do you want Gabbert or Ponder as our QB? Maybe I'd be wrong with them, but I'd much rather try to refine Flacco in a real offense and see what happens.
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
What do you people expect?
When were we ever in position to get Flacco a guy like Calvin Johnson? Since Flacco has been here, we have been picking past 20 in every draft, and have had very limited cap space in every year because of the money we are paying a heap of stars we have on this roster.
If you ask me, Flacco has had it far from rough compared to a lot of other QB's who have been drafted in the first rounds. He has an all pro RB that has bailed him out of many games in the past, as well as relying on a top 5 defense every year up to this year. He did have Todd Heap who was a very good tight end even in 08 09 and 2010, and had D Mason, as well as Boldin since 2010 (both former pro bowl players). The main issue is the Oline, which is the one thing our FO has not done a good job of retaining. I think this offseason should be spent rebuilding the Oline, and I have said this in literally every draft/offseason thread.
The Oline is IMO the only hole on this offense. I guess we could have a guy like Calvin Johnson at WR, but do you realize how hard it is to get guys like that?
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Wow, LBeast and I agree! Alert the media!
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12-11-2012, 12:24 PM #30
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
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“When I think of a Baltimore Raven - we go in there, we take your lunch box, we take your sandwich, we take your juice box, we take your applesauce, and we take your spork and we break it. And we leave you with an empty lunch. That’s the Baltimore Raven way.” - Steve Smith Sr.
Call me a Special Teams coach again. I dare you! I double dare you, MFer!
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12-11-2012, 12:32 PM #31
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Please don't misunderstand me. I have always maintained that Flacco is a good enough QB to win a Super Bowl, provided the rest of the team is also strong. He isn't Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, or Roethisberger though. All of thos QBs have carried their teams to victory despite having major deficiencies in their supporting cast. Look at what Brady and Rodgers have been able to do with no name RB, and WRs (Brady), and terrible defenses. Flacco cannot carry a team the way those players have. The Ravens offense still went through Ray Rice last year. Rice is the top offensive weapon on the Ravens, Flacco is #2. You don't pay the second best offensive weapon on your team $100+ million.
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12-11-2012, 12:33 PM #32
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12-11-2012, 12:42 PM #33
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
I would rather have Flacco as well. Please don't interpret what I am saying as I don't want Flacco as the Ravens QB. It's just at what price do I want Flacco as the Ravens QB. The Ravens have a lot of holes, and they have a great RB that is signed long term. Given that reality, why not continue to feature the RB, and have the QB be the complimentary player, instead of the QB becoming the focal point of the offense? I am all for tying up a large percentage of the cap in the QB, but only if that QB is a big time difference maker that can carry the team. I just don't think Flacco is good enough to warrant that much cap space. Getting a cheaper option (but a good option) at QB, will allow the Ravens to fill many other holes they have on the team. Honestly, I don't know what Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson could do the Ravens offense. I had never heard of Joe Flacco two months before the Ravens drafted him, and they went to the AFC Championship game in his rookie season (despite a ton of injuries), because the rest of the team was strong.
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12-11-2012, 12:46 PM #34Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Really Jason Brown? The one who wanted "guard money" to play center. Just curious. Where is he now? Oh he's sitting right at home. From what I've gathered his phone hasn't exactly been ringing of the hook. Cam Cameron is where you need to start when they decided to retain him after the 2010 season.
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
Don't bother debating with him about Jason Brown, he is a Jason Brown guy. I have already told him what you just told him, yet he continues to think that not resigning Brown was a huge problem lol. Matt Birk was a good pick up and he was arguably just as good as what Brown was in 08 in 09 and 2010.
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12-11-2012, 01:05 PM #36Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: The Baltimore Ravens need to be build around Joe Flacco.
If you do any reading on Rams forums, you'd find out Jason Brown was a terrible signing by them. Plus look at the fact he's not even playing right now. That says a lot.
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