View Poll Results: Who will you blame if the offense still struggles?
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Jim Caldwell
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Joe Flacco
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John Harbaugh
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Ozzie Newsome
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Thread: What If It Wasn't Cam?
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Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?
Ray Rice ;) (tongue in cheek sarcasm)
2011 vs Seattle 5 rushes 27 yards lost 17-22
2011 vs Jacksonville 8 rushes 28 yards lost 7-12
2011 vs Titans 13 rushes 43 yards lost 13-26
2012 vs Texans 9 rushes 42 yards lost 13-43
2012 vs Piss 12 rushes 78 yards lost 20-23 to CHARLIE BATCH!
2010 vs Atlanta 12 rushes 59 yards lost 21-26
We know where the blame was..... and he pointed at everybody but himself.
Now I don't think there will be one glaring weakness, unless the injury bug really decimates (like it did to our CBs in 2007).... it may be one person one week, and something else another week, but I really don't think it will be a sore thumb sticking out like before.
I voted Joe, he got the MVP, QBs receive most of the glory and have to shoulder most of the blame... especially now that reins are off.at one point of my life I was exactly Pi years old
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So after years of offensive inconsistencies, and years of Joe Flacco being up and down through out the regular seasons, all of a sudden Cam gets fired and Jim Caldwell takes over, and this offense magically became unstoppable. Comon guys, stop watching ESPN First take. You don't just suddenly become unstoppable because players magically get better and start executing better. The reason is so obvious to me, Cam was simply not a very good play caller and didn't listen to his players.
Its really simple tbh. The reason we became so good was because the right Oline combinations were put on the field, Jim allowed Flacco to have more freedom, and started using the middle of the field a lot more than what Cam did for whatever reason. For a front office that I love, and is probably the best in the league, it really is mind blowing how they didn't get rid of Cam years ago.
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07-30-2013, 03:44 PM #28Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?
[QUOTE=RavensNTerps;645051]So if the offense is bad and we have Boldin, it is Cameron's fault.
If the offense is bad and we don't have Boldin it is Ozzie's fault.
Got it.[/QUOTE
We could've had a few years of how Boldin looked in the playoffs if Cam knew how to use him correctly. It blows my mind how the Ravens trade for one of the best possession receivers in the game and Cam keeps sending him on 9 routes down the sidelines. Its like bringing in Dan Marino to run the read option.
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07-30-2013, 04:32 PM #30Legendary RSR Poster
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07-30-2013, 04:54 PM #31Pro Bowl Poster
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Caldwell is better than Cameron, but I'm not sure he's all that great. He takes his players' input into consideration, he clearly gives Joe more leeway, and that's a big boost. But his play calling left a lot to be desired, IMO. Maybe it'll change given the fact that he'll have the control from the get-go. That would be nice. Either way...it will definitely be interesting to see how well he does with the full season to work with.
I go back to the Colts/Saints Super Bowl. Sean Payton played a balls to the wall coaching style, and Caldwell didn't. I just don't think it's in his nature. He's very mellow, which is great to an extent. I just think he lacks fire. But I'm not rooting against him; I just have some reservations.
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07-30-2013, 05:30 PM #32Legendary RSR Poster
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I don't really understand how the Ravens offense scoring 30+ points in 3 out of 4 playoff games isn't aggressive.
Good read on Caldwell.
When Huard joined the Colts as a backup in 2002, he felt confident walking into his first quarterbacks meeting with Manning and Caldwell. After spending the previous three seasons with the Seattle Seahawks, Huard had become proficient in the nuances of the West Coast offense — no easy feat. How difficult could it be to learn some new terminology? “I was thinking, I’ve got this whole thing licked,” Huard said.
He was mistaken, and he came to that realization within seconds of entering the room. Caldwell had covered every inch of several large whiteboards with opponents’ tendencies, plays for various downs and distances, routes, cuts, schemes, checks and reads. Caldwell’s penmanship was meticulous, Huard said, each formula and diagram etched with the steady hand of a surgeon. Huard found roughly 95 percent of it to be incomprehensible. After studying algebra, he had landed in a graduate-school seminar on thermodynamics.
“I remember calling my wife at minicamp and saying, ‘I can’t do this, this is crazy,’ ” Huard said. “There were actually times during the season when I was like, ‘Oh man, I hope Peyton doesn’t get hurt.’ Because what he and Jim were doing was so off-the-charts.”
Asked when he finally felt he had gotten up to speed, Huard said: “Never. That’s why I only lasted two years there.”
As far back as 1993, when Caldwell became the coach at Wake Forest, it was clear to his players that he refused to be wedded to a single offensive philosophy. Rusty LaRue, Caldwell’s first quarterback at the university, recalled that the coach was never complacent and always seeking advantages.
The first thing Caldwell did was scrap the team’s I-back scheme in favor of the spread. The next season, with his offense strengthened by one of the conference’s top running backs, he opted to keep the ball on the ground. Then, late in LaRue’s senior season, Caldwell opened things up again, letting LaRue throw the ball — and throw it some more. He completed an N.C.A.A.-record 55 passes in a game against Duke.
“Because that’s what Coach Caldwell thought it would take to win,” said LaRue, now an assistant basketball coach at Wake Forest. “He loves X’s and O’s, which is probably why he relates so well to quarterbacks. Most good quarterbacks, like Peyton and Flacco, have a really high IQ for the game, so they probably appreciate working with someone who has the same love for the nuances of an offense.”
Earlier this month, Caldwell said he still did not feel totally settled in as the team’s offensive coordinator. No coach ever feels completely comfortable, he said, not after three games, not after three years. It is a tenuous line of work — a lesson he learned from his time in Indianapolis.
For him, in his own quiet way, he can only try to control what happens after the next snap. He always has a plan.
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07-30-2013, 05:52 PM #33Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?
It has to be Cam's fault. It's the functional fate of the universe.
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Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?
Whoever is most to blame. I think it's stupid to assign blame when we haven't seen a down yet.
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