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02-06-2013, 05:06 PM #2149
Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
Well, that's the key - if the value is right. The Ravens do need to get some impact players, so trading a bunch of early round picks for one move up would probably be a mistake.
Besides, is it really true that LT is such an overwhelming need, even if McKinnie isn't resigned? Yes, the offensive line played lights out after moving McKinnie to LT, but that wasn't the only move. The much bigger move lost in all this (in my opinion) was Osemele to LG. He made just about every defensive lineman he faced his bitch. Total domination. So maybe it was the huge improvement to LG (over Jah Reid) that was the key.
Take a look at what Flacco was able to do as a result. Early in the season he never was able to step up into the pocket because the pocket was collapsing in the middle. After Osemele is moved inside, that pocket was really open to step into, and Flacco made big plays in doing so. McKinnie was able to push the edge rushers deep, but maybe another LT could do that, even if to a lesser degree. So all this talk about McKinnie being the key might just be wrong - maybe it was Osemele that made that line work.
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02-06-2013, 05:17 PM #2150
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02-06-2013, 05:23 PM #2152
Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
OK, so rephrasing... assumign Lane Johnson is a poor value target. I would then be interested in moving up in round 2 for Tavon Austin, or moving up in 3 to get Quessenberryor faulk, etc. Trading superfluous 4th, 5th and 6th round picks for these types of players would be "ideal".
And the scenario you lay out is EXACTLY why I think LT is such a big need. Without a legit LT, we could easily se an openind day roster such as Oher/Gino/Birk/Yanda/KO or maybe Oher/Reid/Gino/Birk/Yanda/KO or Oher/KO/Gino/Yanda/Reid... the iterations can go on, but it doesn't look pretty to me no matter how you slice it. Even with Big Mac in tow, you may see BigMac/KO/Gino/Yanda/Oher which is acceptable, but what is our depth behind that? Oher at LT, and Reid being the primary backup at all other spots... A well regarded LT prospect solves all of these issues. Let's say we come out of this draft with Quessenberry and Schwenke,, while retaining BigMac. See how much better our line is 8 deep? We would have legit competitions at LT and C with a pair of All-pro Guards and Oher/Reid at RT....
I think the key move was placing players ina position to succeed. KO was adequate at RT, but a MONSTER at LG. Oher was sufficient(my owrd for a bit worse then adequate, in this intance)at LT and pretty good at RT. McKinnie was quite good at LT, but sure, KO next to him helped him there. It's ok with me.
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02-06-2013, 05:25 PM #2153
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02-06-2013, 05:31 PM #2154
Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I'm a fan of Canty's size (6'7, 315). However, if they stick to a 3-4 then no, but if they switch to a 4-3 then I would say he could fit in nicely. I'm still a huge fan of the 4-3 idea
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02-06-2013, 05:32 PM #2155
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02-06-2013, 05:34 PM #2156
Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
Anyone have an interest in Brennan Williams UNC T. I could see him playing the left side in the NFL and would be probbaly 4th round-3rd round. Great project guy with a lor of upside
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02-06-2013, 05:40 PM #2157
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
#1: The entire draft is a crap shoot. No one in the draft is a sure thing. Just, because you have eleven picks, doesn't mean your locked in to pick one right.
#2: Roll the dice with LT if you want to. Watch what happens."Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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02-06-2013, 05:45 PM #2159
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I'm not saying move up for Johnson, just because. However, if, for example, you thought that somebody in this draft could be as good as you (Ozzie) thought Joe Thomas could be, this is the time to move up and take him.
That way, if the rookie isn't ready, you have McKinnie. If McKinnie pulls a McKinnie, you have the rookie and the rest of the line can remain intact."Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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