Is there any possibility that Jacoby Jones is not the third WR come week 1?

[GOTA]

You are making too much sense.




With all due respect, people keep bringing up Torrey but 95% of this board was pissed that we even kept Torrey as the #3. He had one of the worse camps we've seen as far as a WR dropping passes. Not a single person on this board, or coach in the NFL would have started the season with Torrey starting over Lee Evans.

But saying that, that doesn't mean that the coaching staff would have continued to start Evans over Torrey if his non-production continued. Really, that's essentially what happened as Evans started the first 2 games last year, gave us literally nothing and the team sat him to rest an injury that they initially hoped he could play through.

If Evans was healthy like he was at the very end of the season he would have been the Ravens #2 the whole season. Michael Oher was as bad a LT as we've seen and he never lost his job. Harbaugh doesn't play that way. There is not an open competition for these starting WR spots during camp or even the season. The point is no matter what LaQuan or Doss or anyone else does they aren't beating out Jones unless he gets hurt.

[ballhawk]

I'd really love to hear the FO answer directly the question: Given Jones history of drops and fumbles, where does he provide enough benefit to offset those negatives that you know he's going to bring to the table?

Probably because he was primarily brought in here to return kicks.

[s.r.genovese]

The bottom line is we are going to need them both because at some point one of the starting receivers will be hurt and it's better to have 2 guys who can step up than none. We should be happy we finally have quality depth at the receiver position.

[The Excellector]

You are making too much sense.




With all due respect, people keep bringing up Torrey but 95% of this board was pissed that we even kept Torrey as the #3. He had one of the worse camps we've seen as far as a WR dropping passes. Not a single person on this board, or coach in the NFL would have started the season with Torrey starting over Lee Evans.

But saying that, that doesn't mean that the coaching staff would have continued to start Evans over Torrey if his non-production continued. Really, that's essentially what happened as Evans started the first 2 games last year, gave us literally nothing and the team sat him to rest an injury that they initially hoped he could play through.

That wasn't, because Evans was healthy and unproductive. His ankle was bothering him and the team knew it. Before he hurt his ankle, he was playing well. It was really his ankle injury that forced him out and forced Smith in.

[Terpsfan82]

If Evans was healthy like he was at the very end of the season he would have been the Ravens #2 the whole season. Michael Oher was as bad a LT as we've seen and he never lost his job. Harbaugh doesn't play that way. There is not an open competition for these starting WR spots during camp or even the season. The point is no matter what LaQuan or Doss or anyone else does they aren't beating out Jones unless he gets hurt.

:word

[wickedsolo]

I'd also point out that the last guy we got from Houston had an even worse reputation.

He starts at safety now and we love him now.

Not that I disagree with you, but Houston was sad to see Pollard leave too. The Houston fans that I sat beside in the playoff game just kept talking about how badly they wished that the Texans had done something about keeping Pollard and how great of a player we got.

You aren't hearing those things about Jacoby Jones.

Again, I love the size/speed combo that he brings to the table, but he is just so damn inconsistent.

With all due respect, people keep bringing up Torrey but 95% of this board was pissed that we even kept Torrey as the #3. He had one of the worse camps we've seen as far as a WR dropping passes. Not a single person on this board, or coach in the NFL would have started the season with Torrey starting over Lee Evans.

The big difference is that Torrey was a rookie with a tremendous amount of upside and Jacoby Jones is a known commodity. Everyone was pulling their hair out when Flacco would go to Torrey because he could just as easily bricked a lot of those passes, but he was also learning on the fly how to be a receiver in the NFL and now he looks infinitely more polished as a route runner and receiver. Jacoby has never had that season where you could see him putting it all together as the season went on. He's just never been that kind of receiver and it's highly likely that he never will.

[The Excellector]

Pollard and Leach vouched for Jonss, so I am going to take a wait-and-see. Big play WR are going to drop some even Torrey has, and I have to see more than a drive or two to make up my mind.....he obviously has mucho speed, more than Lee Evans had.

I also think the two TEs are going to be the key.....if Dixon can catch the damn ball, we will be OK.

Lewis and Reed vouched for McKinnie. We saw how that worked out too.

[wickedsolo]

Probably because he was primarily brought in here to return kicks.

Then why Jacoby and why the $$$?

They could have just as easily brought in someone like Eric Weems if they were 100% geared towards getting a pure return specialist.

[The Excellector]

I'm not knocking the team for trying to upgrade the position or find the right pieces for the position. However, they won't be able to hide Jacoby Jones. He will have to step up and has proven that he will not. It's the same reason why we want Tucker to be the starting kicker over Cundiff.

There is a difference between practice experience and game experience. Torrey looks like a completely different WR right now. Would he honestly look this much better if Evans had stayed healthy or if Torrey hadn't somehow played last year?

[Ravens44]

My opinion is the Ravens would not have paid that money for Jones to sit OR just be a return guy.

So he will be the starter unless God intervenes.
Am I happy? Well he hasn't hurt us YET.

I thing is for sure.
IF he does, the fans will go NUTS!

And they will be screaming for ANY other receiver to come in, including Deonte Thompson.

To tell the truth, if you look at it so far, I would like to see Thompson get a few reps with the first team.
In my opinion he has already earned at least that short look.
I believe, he will be on the 53 if he doesn't screw up and continues to make plays.

Who is right behind Jones right now? I would say it is Williams. We finally have a stable of receivers.

[B-more Ravor]

If Evans was healthy like he was at the very end of the season he would have been the Ravens #2 the whole season. Michael Oher was as bad a LT as we've seen and he never lost his job. Harbaugh doesn't play that way. There is not an open competition for these starting WR spots during camp or even the season. The point is no matter what LaQuan or Doss or anyone else does they aren't beating out Jones unless he gets hurt.

Well, since Jones has also had a good camp, I'm not sure why LQW should be ahead of him at this point? If Jones was stinking up the joint, I'd agree, but he hasn't (despite Friday).

Doss, well, he's going to have to do a lot more over the next 2 weeks to even get himself out of the 5th WR spot (if he's even really ahead of Thompson at this point).

PS: who on the roster could they have replaced Oher with at LT in 2010?

[ballhawk]

Then why Jacoby and why the $$$?

They could have just as easily brought in someone like Eric Weems if they were 100% geared towards getting a pure return specialist.

I dont know man. We do know that Ted Ginn was their first choice and they couldnt reel him in. There might have been a little desperation in the signing. Our return game was awful last year and they made a priority to improve it. Maybe some of that $$$ was compensation for Jones kind of handing us the win against the Texans in the playoffs.