Saints Player Suspensions Announced

**blacknpurplepain** · 05-02-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Again, they have evidence and documentation on Vilma specifically advocating and supporting these bounties.

B. Favre and kurt Warner

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-all-of-2012/

Kurt Warner too

**NCRAVEN** · 05-02-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by festivus

Right, turning in a report. Like I said, arguing with a kid.

You take as a premise that "it goes on in every locker room." Your entire argument is based on that premise. Without it, you have nothing.

Now go back it up. And explain how it's like the NO situation, including the cover up, the prior warnings, the outside money, all of it.

I won't hold my breath.

I asked for that proof a few post back and am still holding my breath.

If you call my work number just ask for Mr. Blue.

**blah3** · 05-02-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

1. Prove it

?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...see/53364620/1

**blacknpurplepain** · 05-02-2012, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Does it matter if they succedded in injury players and racking up illegal hits penaltys? NO, fact is it was the intention, whether or not they were successful, and there is clear evidence of said intention, we all heard it... Doesnt matter if they actually done it, they tried, thats the crime...

Your interpretation could be extended to attempted murder... no crime committed here because the person isnt dead....

Or hiring an undercover cop to kill your spouse. I think it's fair bc missing 1 year of football is less than a whole career due to an illegal hit

**NCRAVEN** · 05-02-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...see/53364620/1

It would seem this follows Gregg Williams and is not part of every locker room.

If even it is is, do you think that makes it okay?

**blah3** · 05-02-2012, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by festivus

Right, turning in a report. Like I said, arguing with a kid.

Yes, because there are no places in the working world where you will have to turn in a report.

**NCRAVEN** · 05-02-2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

Yes, because there are no places in the working world where you will have to turn in a report.

Using "will" here implies "in the future" meaning you're not here yet. Not saying that's the case just an FYI.

**dandrews** · 05-02-2012, 03:49 PM

Vilma should be lucky he only got a year, considering he committed a federal felony.

**blacknpurplepain** · 05-02-2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

Again, if they did not do illegal hits, what are they punishing? I could just as easily say that YOUR interpration of their intentions to do illegal hits is skewed.
Every team is looking to 'take a player out'. Do you always interpret that as doing it illegally?

They are being punished for lying, putting untaxed money in a pool trying to purposely hurt a player especially during a time when player safety is a big issue and conduct issues. They lucky they didn't get a life time ban. I don't understand how anyone can defend these actions and I love hard hitting

**blah3** · 05-02-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

It would seem this follows Gregg Williams and is not part of every locker room.

If even it is is, do you think that makes it okay?

I really don't care if the players have a pot of money or not. This has been going on a long time now. Seems the players were not really offended by it. Seems the players understand that it's not about ending someone's career.

I think what is happening here, is that many people are having an emotional reaction to the situation. Because of this emotional reaction, they are making out the Saints to be evil. I think that this situation of bounties is not different, or malicious in intent, as what goes on in other locker rooms in the NFL.
Heck you've got stickers for college players for stuff like this as well.

**blah3** · 05-02-2012, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by blacknpurplepain

They are being punished for lying, putting untaxed money in a pool trying to purposely hurt a player especially during a time when player safety is a big issue and conduct issues. They lucky they didn't get a life time ban. I don't understand how anyone can defend these actions and I love hard hitting

Every team is trying to purposefully 'hurt' a player. You don't think Suggs is trying to 'hurt' Big Ben or Brady?

**NCRAVEN** · 05-02-2012, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

I really don't care if the players have a pot of money or not. This has been going on a long time now. Seems the players were not really offended by it. Seems the players understand that it's not about ending someone's career.

I think what is happening here, is that many people are having an emotional reaction to the situation. Because of this emotional reaction, they are making out the Saints to be evil. I think that this situation of bounties is not different, or malicious in intent, as what goes on in other locker rooms in the NFL.
Heck you've got stickers for college players for stuff like this as well.

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but based on that response I'll take the answer to my question of have you heard the tape of Williams in the team meeting before the San Fran game as "no".