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    They are using espns own qbr system


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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    That's really, really sad.
    That's really, really wrong.


    (Completion% - 30) X 0.05 = A
    (Yards/Attempts - 3) X 0.25 = B
    TD% X 0.2 = C
    2.375 - (INT% X 0.25) = D

    (A + B + C + D)/6 = _______ X 100 = QB Rating

    (50-30) * 0.05 = 1
    (6.35 - 3) * 0.025 = 0.8374
    5 * 0.2 = 1
    2.375 - (2.5 * 0.25) = 1.75

    (1 + 0.8374 + 1 + 1.75) /6 = 0.765 * 100 = 76.5 QB Rating.
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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    They are using espns own qbr system


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    Well, the one that the NFL uses would come out to about a 76.
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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    That Cam pitchfork party didn't last long
    Cam needed to go and this should have been done 2 years ago.

    But I kind of tried to make a point in warning people that there were a lot of player execution problems...you can't blame Cam for everything.

    This is not the first game this year where we struggled to protect Joe...it's not the first game where we struggled with drops. If it's happening over and over, there is a problem with focus and player ability.

    It's easy to blame the OC here...it's what we've done since Vinny was here. At some point, the players have to be accountable...as well as the front office who brought those players here.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.





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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    That's really, really wrong.


    (Completion% - 30) X 0.05 = A
    (Yards/Attempts - 3) X 0.25 = B
    TD% X 0.2 = C
    2.375 - (INT% X 0.25) = D

    (A + B + C + D)/6 = _______ X 100 = QB Rating

    (50-30) * 0.05 = 1
    (6.35 - 3) * 0.025 = 0.8374
    5 * 0.2 = 1
    2.375 - (2.5 * 0.25) = 1.75

    (1 + 0.8374 + 1 + 1.75) /6 = 0.765 * 100 = 76.5 QB Rating.
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/69...-total-qbr-faq



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    Re: A thought I had...

    Ok, this is an article explaining ESPN's total QB rating:
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/68...terback-rating
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    Re: A thought I had...

    Why ESPN has a different system than the NFL is weird.
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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    That's really, really wrong.


    (Completion% - 30) X 0.05 = A
    (Yards/Attempts - 3) X 0.25 = B
    TD% X 0.2 = C
    2.375 - (INT% X 0.25) = D

    (A + B + C + D)/6 = _______ X 100 = QB Rating

    (50-30) * 0.05 = 1
    (6.35 - 3) * 0.025 = 0.8374
    5 * 0.2 = 1
    2.375 - (2.5 * 0.25) = 1.75

    (1 + 0.8374 + 1 + 1.75) /6 = 0.765 * 100 = 76.5 QB Rating.
    QBR is not the same thing as Passer or QB rating.

    "QBR" is a proprietary rating used by ESPN. It grades QBs play-by-play using its own metric. It supposedly takes into account performance vs. expectation depending on game circumstance and the play itself. So whereas the traditional Passer rating would count a 2 yard pass and 38 yards of YAC the same as a 40 yard sideline throw with 0 YAC, the QBR metric would give the QB very little to no credit for the former and plenty of credit for the latter. Same goes with prevent/meaningless stats (i.e. almost all of Joe's today).





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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    QBR is not the same thing as Passer or QB rating.

    "QBR" is a proprietary rating used by ESPN. It grades QBs play-by-play using its own metric. It supposedly takes into account performance vs. expectation depending on game circumstance and the play itself. So whereas the traditional Passer rating would count a 2 yard pass and 38 yards of YAC the same as a 40 yard sideline throw with 0 YAC, the QBR metric would give the QB very little to no credit for the former and plenty of credit for the latter. Same goes with prevent/meaningless stats (i.e. almost all of Joe's today).
    Got it.

    I was not aware that ESPN had their own system for the QB rating.

    Regardless, I've always felt that the QBR the NFL uses is not a good statistic to uses as an argument. Obviously, a bulk of Flacco's 254 yards and 2 TD's came in garbage time when the game was already over.
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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    That's really, really wrong.


    (Completion% - 30) X 0.05 = A
    (Yards/Attempts - 3) X 0.25 = B
    TD% X 0.2 = C
    2.375 - (INT% X 0.25) = D

    (A + B + C + D)/6 = _______ X 100 = QB Rating

    (50-30) * 0.05 = 1
    (6.35 - 3) * 0.025 = 0.8374
    5 * 0.2 = 1
    2.375 - (2.5 * 0.25) = 1.75

    (1 + 0.8374 + 1 + 1.75) /6 = 0.765 * 100 = 76.5 QB Rating.
    QBR takes into account things like the garbage TD's Joe got.

    It isn't perfect, and anybody who lives by it is wrong, but it takes more into account than simply saying Joe threw for 2 TD's today, so his TD's impacted the game the same as a QB who throws 2 TD's while down 2 scores to win the game.

    This explains what it is and how they get their numbers and these are the rankings before today I believe.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.





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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Why ESPN has a different system than the NFL is weird.
    NFL's system is just pure numbers in a vaccum.

    QBR is not perfect, but at least attempts to take into account the quality of the opposing team and the amount that the stats accumulated actually impact the game.

    It's nothing to live by, but it's better IMHO than just looking at pure stats.

    Both don't paint Joe in a pretty light though. He's about average in both.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.





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    Re: A thought I had...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    NFL's system is just pure numbers in a vaccum.

    QBR is not perfect, but at least attempts to take into account the quality of the opposing team and the amount that the stats accumulated actually impact the game.

    It's nothing to live by, but it's better IMHO than just looking at pure stats.

    Both don't paint Joe in a pretty light though. He's about average in both.
    I agree and honestly that is why I try not to use stats on here. I find things like PFF and what Filmstudy does interesting, but it doesn't tell the whole story in a lot of circumstances.
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