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Re: Flacco vs Ryan
He was the best player in the Tennesee and second Pitt matchup too. It wasn't his fault Boldin dropped a TD pass that would have probably won the game.
If Flacco played the way Ryan did today, I'd have some major doubts about him being able to take us to a title. Joe has never looked as bad as this, regardless of what the numbers were. Christ, just use your eyes people, numbers are for loosers.
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Another epic failure by Mister Playoffs himself.
That won't stop the media (and half our fans) from thinking he's still the wind beneath Tim Tebow's wings (while still thinking Flacco stinks), but Ryan's miles behind Flacco in terms of understanding what it takes to win big games.
The earlier Manning/Brady comparison was good. Brady was a playoff winner right off the bat. Manning was a playoff debacle for the first 5 years of his career (0-3).
That's right, history buffs. The quarterback you always compare Joe Flacco to so unfavorably played two more years than Joe Flacco has before winning ONE playoff game. And he completed under 50% in those first three playoff games (50-105) with all of ONE Td against 2 picks.
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01-08-2012, 07:40 PM #75
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Lardarius "The predator" Webb
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01-08-2012, 07:48 PM #76Pro Bowl Poster
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In perfect world, both Flacco and Ryan would be celebrated as good young developing QBs. Unfortunately in the media, one is the golden child who's shit never stinks... the other is the black sheep and is always discredited. I think the majority of our ire is towards f'n media... not Ryan. Not that I personally give one shit about Jaime 'I promise.. I really did play in the NFL' Dukes' opinion, but it does get tiresome when a lot of people let his 'keen insight' influence their opinions.
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01-08-2012, 07:51 PM #77
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01-08-2012, 07:52 PM #78Regular 1st Stringer
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Are you effing kidding me?? Give Flacco Roddy White and Julio Jones and lets see what type of numbers he can put up, IN A DOME.
Oh let me guess, youre talking defense? Atlanta's defense shut down the Giants for most of the game. What did matt Ryan do to keep his team in it??? He short armed passes and didnt throw to guys wide open down the middle. he got stuffed on two qb sneaks on 4th and inches. He is so overrated it's ridiculous. Joe Flacco plays on a team that does and probably always will cater to the defense. Overly conservative and never playing to Joe's strengths. he plays and succeeds within the confines of whats best for the team. Period.
Its ridiculous how much flack Joe takes. No pun."Sorry officer, nothing wrong here. I'm just watching the Ravens game!"
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01-08-2012, 07:55 PM #79On The Practice Squad
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The only thing that matters is that Matty Ice has melted once again.......
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01-08-2012, 07:56 PM #80
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This kind of sports hate is not like real hate. It is just hating on a guy that gets a lot more love than our guy even though he has accomlpished less.
Ryan is a good QB. No one is saying he sucks. What people are saying is Flacco is at least as good if not better. Ryan has an elite O around him. probowl caliber players at every skill position and a solid OL (usually). Sure the Raven D is better than the Falcon D, but there are plenty of reasons why people argue that Flacco is better even though the stats are about even.
Ryan could turn out to be a HOF QB and Flacco may not, but so far, Flacco has been the QB on a team that won 4 playoff games, Ryan has been the Qb on a team that has no playoff wins and was shut out today.
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01-08-2012, 08:01 PM #81Legendary RSR Poster
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Just taking this part of your post, and disagreeing. 54 catches for 959 yds (17.8 per) and 8 TDs seems like a better than solid rookie season to me. While I know he "cost" more than Torrey Smith, TS had 50 catches for 841 yds (16.8 per) and 7 TDs, but we're ecstatic about it. I think you're underplaying Julio Jones' contribution to the Falcons offense... Bc
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At what point in this thread has it not been obvious that the only "resentment" against Ryan is about the media coverage and the inconsistent way he's criticized as opposed to Flacco? Your the only one who thinks this is somehow a personal thing against Ryan its football, all we're doing is talking football.
:word nothing more nothing less, no need to exaggerate things.Last edited by Justlovemybirds; 01-08-2012 at 08:14 PM.
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01-08-2012, 08:14 PM #83Regular 1st Stringer
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Matt Ryan plays in PERFECT weather conditions for about 80% of his games with the majority of those being in domes. No issues with wind, water, cold, sunlight, etc. That alone should give him a big lead in stats- but they are virtually identical, which leads me to believe that Flacco is better. I don't think people really give him (or anyone) the credit for being able to throw balls outside in the cold and wind- it's a huge plus.
then combine the fact that he still hasn't won a game in the playoffs with all of those offensive weapons (ZERO freaking points today)- That was clearly an offensive failure- and it seems to happen every post-season. He can't handle the pressure. I don't care if Joe's STATS are not better- he just wins, and puts his team in positions to win. He usually plays smart football- He usually plays well outside in adverse weather conditions- All that makes me happy that we have Joe over the ice-cube.
And whoever said that Julio Jones shouldn't count b/c he's a rookie :grbac: You clearly haven't watched him play- the guy is a beast. And didn't the Falcons give up a ton just to move up to get him. The guy can flat out play.
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01-08-2012, 08:28 PM #84Regular 1st Stringer
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I'm not Flacco fan at all, but I do have to admit Ryan's WRs and TEs are better than Flacco's.
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