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12-03-2012, 12:08 PM #13Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
I watch the Coaches film... The Ravens receivers really rarely get separation thru playcall design or their own route running. If it was simply Joe late on an open window, I'd be critical of him but I just dont see it. Only times I see it is when teams blitz. Teams typically dont rush more than 5 against Ravens now, b/c Joe is successful against the blitz. Teams can usually get decent pressure with 4 guys against our OL.
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12-03-2012, 12:12 PM #15Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
No idea.
Supposedly, Cam wants to run the no-huddle.
Supposedly, the no-huddle was pushed by Caldwell.
Supposedly, Flacco operates out of the no-huddle better than any other tempo.
They've been successful with the no-huddle.
Based on recent reports it would seem that Harbaugh doesn't want to run the no-huddle (just inferring that...have not actually read or heard that).
IMO, if that is true, it is because the D can't hang and by playing conservative offense, it allows the D to remain rested and not be on the field as often. That is the ONLY reasonable explanation I can come up with.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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12-03-2012, 12:12 PM #17Veteran Poster
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
They never have done it "enough," but I agree that some games we complete a couple/few passes like these and others we complete/attempt none. No idea what changed, other than playcalling based on risk assessment, or perhaps in couple instances, us throwing to a safer route on the play.
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12-03-2012, 12:13 PM #18
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
what change was cam, buit haqrbaugh has his hand in it too.
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
For the SD game I believe that was the case, Harbs pretty much said that. But yesterday they clearly were taking deep shots early and often because they knew that type of game was not what they needed. (I'm speculating of course). Then when Rice gets the TD, and 10 yds on his next carry, I don't think he touched the ball again... it's mind boggling at times
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12-03-2012, 12:25 PM #21Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
I'm thinking the Ravens passed to open up the running game and have rice run out the clock in the 4th at the end. They gambled on the D getting a quick stop on Batch only for him to not only get a TD off a fumble but eat all that clock up and drive down the field for a FG. It almost worked if Doss held on to that pass, then they make a short yardage situation to get a first down and wear the steelers out with Rice. But woulda coulda shoulda don't cut it in this league obviously. The gameplan was right for the most part, keep in mind the Steelers have the number 1 D and are division rivals. Look at what the Rams did to SF this year and look at their record.
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12-03-2012, 12:40 PM #22Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
Yup defenses have adapted to Cam's scheme and Cam hasnt answered those adjustments. Torrey, last year, would get open on deep balls quite a few times. This year... maybe 3 times at most (Raiders TD). Not good.
The one new thing they've done successfully (at home) is no-huddle. No-huddle gets Joe in a rhythm. Where the hell was it last nite? If Harbs truly is putting the kibosh on it when Cam and Caldwell want it, he is an idiot. Sure you want the defense rested with ball control offensive drives, but there are ways to run clock with the no huddle. Rice is good at running the ball out of shotgun. Ultimately the offense's #1 goal is to score points and our no-huddle provides that more than the ball control 2WR/FB/TE set.
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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12-03-2012, 01:02 PM #24
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Re: Swap out Joe from the Cam Offense and insert other NFL QB... Who would be better?
like i been saying for 2yrs now, there is no flooding the zones, no trip sets or bunch formations, no 4-5 wideouts spreading the field, in cam's system you 3 wideouts and 1 TE and rice as the bailout plan those 3 wideouts one on side and 2 on the other one running deep (torrey), one running intermediate (jacoby) and boldin taking the curls and drags its all the same shit every game i EVEN KNOW WHEN ITS COMING if I know you damn sure know nfl coaches know. its the same shit.
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