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01-09-2012, 12:38 PM #14
Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
I thought Gurode signed a two year contract which to me implies he'll be stepping in for Birk who I think is in his last year.
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01-10-2012, 08:50 AM #17
Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
You guys multi-task much too well. I'm focused on winning NOW, not next year! I'll deal with this after the Superbowl hangover wears off... like Feb. 10th or 11th
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01-10-2012, 09:25 AM #18
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01-10-2012, 10:19 AM #19Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
I am one of those people who is very high on Vlachos. He may only be 6'1 295 or thereabouts, but size is much less important at the C position than technique and intelligence. A lot of great centers in the league have been sub-300 guys, including Jeff Saturday, Olin Kreutz, etc. In fact, our own Matt Birk is listed at 6'4 309, and that is actually a lower BMI than Vlachos.
In the Ravens' system you are going to see the center try to get to the second level via combo blocks moreso than going head-up against a DT anyway. There are only a few centers in the league that really can overpower big DTs and NTs one-on-one, and Matt Birk already is not (and never was) one of them. I think Vlachos fits the scheme well, particularly if we continue to move to zone-blocking principles.
He's not my favorite center in the class, but he's a good one and he looks like an Ozzie pick. He could probably be had in the 3rd round. I dunno if you ask him to start day 1, but IMO I think the Ravens should consider giving Birk a 1-year deal (if he wants to come back) AND drafting a guy like Vlachos or Mike Brewster (Brewster is probably in the 2nd or even 3rd as well at this point after his bad year) to serve as his understudy. I don't know how cheap Birk will be, but I think he will accept a 1-year deal with a small bonus or no bonus while I think Gurode will want a multi-year deal with guarantees. I think Birk is also still playing at a very high level, higher than Gurode is capable of, and the continuity is extremely valuable from a scheme perspective.
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Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
I think Vlachos brings a lot of value as a run blocker, but again, you have to consider the fact that Flacco is 5 inches taller than him and taking a direct snap from Vlachos might impede on Flacco's ability to smoothly transition from snap and into his drop steps. It's a legitimate concern. That is one of the reasons why Birk was so desirable as a center prospect at the time. Cam likes taller centers for this very reason.
In the 4th or 5th round I think Vlachos is a steal, but in the 2nd or 3rd I think it's a major reach.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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01-10-2012, 12:15 PM #22Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
Why wouldnt we re-sign gurode? He's 33 years old, probably has 2 years left in him maybe more(with him sitting the bench this year). Ive been watching his scores that FilmStudy gives him and he seems to still be very good under center.
We need to fill holes elsewhere before we worry about a position that we already have a pro bowl player at.
Such as:
LB
WR
Safety
LT
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Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
Was there not a second year option on McKinnie's contract?
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01-10-2012, 01:06 PM #24Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: If Gurode isn't retained, Jamaal Jackson may be an option...
Yes, he is under contract for 2012 at just under 4mil, per several sources I could find. I didn't find anything that specifically described it as an option year, just a standard 2-year deal. I don't see any reason why McKinnie isn't the Ravens starting LT in 2012. Even if we do draft a guy, barring him beating McKinnie in training camp (if the position is even up for grabs), he won't see time at LT next year.
That's part of why I would have loved Barrett Jones, the dude has been a beast at LT for Alabama but he was also a quality starter at LG. He could have started at LG in 2012 and then moved to LT in 2013 like Ogden did in his first two years. Of course, that's not an option anymore.
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