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BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Remember, I was the first in here to call for a land slide. With all
the crap OBYs been pulling with the kill and now gay marriage,
Rasmussen has MItt ahead by 7 points - 50-43%.
That doesnt count the un-decideds, which none of the polls
include. Throw them in and you can add 10 pts. Un-decideds
have never voted for the incumbent.
And don't forget the Ohio State thread where OBY spoke before a near
empty stadium.
I also have a thread quoting Carville telling the DEMs to wake up or
they will lose big. He was the brains behind Clinton's election.
Dick Morris also said it will be a land slide. He was Clinton's Chief of
Staff and got him to go along with Newt to balance the budget. He said
you will get the credit, not the Congress and he was right.
Gallup had Mitt with a 8 pt lead before this one.
The country is getting sick of this commie.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_pollLast edited by AirFlacco; 05-11-2012 at 10:11 AM.
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05-11-2012, 11:45 AM #2
There is no way in hell this election will be a landslide. The media and the union thugs will see to that.
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05-11-2012, 12:00 PM #3Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Dick Morris said "if the election were held today" it would be a landslide.
Agree with Sting, no way in hell this one is going to be a landslide. Far too many media cronies out there that will pimp for Obama.
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Good point Sting but the union is getting slaughtered in the Wisconsin
recall vote now. Walker is killing the DEMs. The
Tea Party has done a good job in diminishing their power but there's
always the media as you say but even they have been taking their
lumps in this back lash poll. These numbers will only increase, then go
down after the DEM convention, then go by up by Nov.
A pal was saying last night at the water hole they
would pull all the stops like lowering the gas prices just before the election
and what not. Prices are already lowering but that's due to a decrease in
demand in China and here as the links I posted indicate.
That said, a 7-pt lead can be considered a land slide now. OBY is about
to lose NC as I said on the gay marriage thread and is tied with Ohio as
a swing state.
Mitt will pull ahead of him there. A convict almost beat OBY in W VA
and is allowed to be a delegate at their convention because he got 15%
of the vote. A convict no less. ILMAO.
I'll stand by my prediction for the slide. The people are getting sick of him.
Even his own people.
See Bill Clinton thread.
ps
don't forget the un-decideds.
they're not counted in these polls.
they never vote for the incumbent.
Both Carville and Morris said OBY can lose big.Last edited by AirFlacco; 05-11-2012 at 12:19 PM.
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
I agree with Morris that if the election were held today it would be a landslide.
There is just way to much time between now and November to say what will happen.
If Walker wins in Wisconsin (again) I think that will give us a good indication, as long as Mitt STAYS ON MESSAGE.
OH and Trap, you're right even his own supporters are getting tired of him. A friend of mine who is very left and a hardcore dem posted on facebook the other day "are we better off than we were 4 years ago" and followed it up with a comment that said "if I have to ask I guess I know the answer"
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Oh man. You just blew my argument away man with the time.
McCain was 2 pts ahead when the market crash and would have won the
election if the crash occurred just 4 weeks later. That's the only reason
OBY won - the economy crashed.
So I'll have to re-vise my statement saying barring any curve ball in
world events or otherwise, it will be a land slide for Mitt which means
he won't need my vote so I won't have to vote-lol.
Great point NC.
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05-11-2012, 02:38 PM #7
Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
You guys are woeful when it comes understanding this stuff. You take a Rassmussen poll of +7 and thinik Romney in a landslide.
Take a look at the current electoral map:
http://www.270towin.com/
Obama is at about 227 with states solidly in his favor on this map. Look at some swing state poll data:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes...ReleaseID=1743
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo...ests/states/FL
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo...ests/states/PA
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo...ests/states/OH
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo...ests/states/NV
and tell me where you see the "landslide" That is a total joke. Yes, Romney has tightened some swing races to a couple points down vs. last weeks several points down. If you study the electoral map, Obama has far more ways to 270 than Romney. This election right now is either tight win either way or comfortable win for Obama. There is no way it is a landslide for Romney. Why? Dick Morris? Too much.
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Well Galen. IF you search for objectionable info instead of TPM you might see recent polls have Romney ahead in FL (even your poll had that) NC, VA, tied in OH.
I haven't seen very many NV polls (probably cause the low amount of electoral votes) but I heard on a NV radio station (online) that in the past year the lead in registered Dems had over Repubs fell by 100k, how many did Obama win by in 08 you ask 130k.
And as Morris points out (which you probably didn't read) undecided almost ALWAYS go against the incumbent (only Bush 43 got some in the past 8 elections) and BHO is about 50 in what a PA, NM, MI?
Here for your viewing pleasure is how Morris arrives at a "landslide, if the election were held today"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...de_114108.html
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
I've been saying it's not about the approval numbers, it's about the electoral math.
Galen is correct to point that out. As of today, Romney would have to win all the toss up states. Nobody in either campaign gives the popularity as much credence as they do the electoral math.
But, as NC points out, it's WAY too early for either side to celebrate. It's going to be close, baring any monumentally stupid or otherwise scandalous news from either camp.
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Just to be clear, I am talking about polling numbers of who would vote for who in each state, not approval numbers in each state.
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Im telling yoos Mitt is gonna get those swing states - OHio, Va etc. He
already has NC. That's where the electoral votes add up and why they are
so important.
And as I always say, those polls Galen pulls out of his ass are directed at
mostly un-likey voters or un-registered voters. Rasmussen is about the only poll that surveys voters that are registered and are most likely to vote.
And one other thing, Galen's polls word their surveys to get the vote they
want. Another words, it's in the wording of the survey.
Context is everything!
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Re: BACKLASH POLL: Mitt 7 pt lead
Here's a real clear electoral map giving OBY a 250-170 pt lead but it has
Fla, NC, Va as toss up states. We're saying Mitt will get those states. Ohio
is even now and they have it as a toss up with 18 pts.
So that map is not entirely right and those states would pull Mitt almost
even plus the rest of the toss ups. Ohio has been an economically depressed state and Mitt beat Santorum in Ohio focusing on jobs while he spoke on social issues. Mitt will continue to hit on jobs and win Ohio as well. He probably won't get his own state of Michigan which always goes Dem.
There are still red counties in eastern Ohio that will vote GOP and some on
the southwestern side of the state as well. The big cities like our pals
in Cinci and Cleve will go DEM as usual where are the unions are.
Then there are the Western states they have as toss up and I disagree with
some of those blue states. We'll see.
As OBY keeps tanking and doing stupid stuff Mitt will win all those states.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...llege_map.html
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