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Thread: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
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12-18-2012, 01:01 PM #13Veteran Poster
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
Good teams rarely fire their OC in the middle of the season. (Fassel was fired by Billick for dereliction, borderline insubordination...doesn't compare).
I said at the time, the only way this works out well for Harbaugh is if it turns out he really was listening to his players and fired his friend for the well-being of the team. I could then envision a scenario of Harbaugh re-earning/reinforcing his respect in the locker-room and the players rallying around him.
The fact that this came down from above, most likely from Bisciotti, in the manner it did, post close-loss rage, is a very different, and for the sake of this year's team, a much worse scenario.
As I keep saying, if you had told me 3 weeks ago that Harbaugh would be playing for his job, I would have said you are nuts. Now, as the dike continues to burst, I think it becomes more-and-more likely.
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12-18-2012, 01:07 PM #14Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
For what it is worth and that is probably nothing, I believe Glazer. Just a few seasons ago, the Ravens kept their defense coordinator's, (Matteson) son on the roster who played defense end in college and was on the roster or practice squad as an offensive lineman. Bryan Matteson was an undrafted free agent in 2008 and given a spot on the Ravens because of his father. Oh Greg Matteson was a friend of JH. Said it then and now that was the John Harbaugh giving a coach's son $ and a roster spot.
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
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12-18-2012, 01:56 PM #16On The Practice Squad
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
I have a tremendous amount of respect for the Raven's organization and what they have been able to accomplish. But.....
How bad did it have to be for the team to fire Cameron with 3 games left and the playoffs? And to trade him for a guy that hasn't called plays or truly designed an offense since Wake Forest in the Nineties. Where he had a 29% winning percentage over 7 seasons.
I would be shocked silly if Caldwell is the OC next year for you guys. I could see Norv Turner. He's a better version of Cam Cameron.
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12-18-2012, 02:02 PM #17Regular 1st Stringer
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12-18-2012, 02:03 PM #18
Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
Festivus
His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
I've really grown to dislike Harbaugh after this season, reading this just makes me even more mad.
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
As I said the move was pushed for AFTER the win in Pittsburgh. Harbs is on the mega hot seat because he had no control over his coach, moreso than anything. Harbs as it stands now will be let go after the season, depending on the season results. Harbs for 3 years in a row pleaded to keep Cam because of the thier long personel freindship. Cameron hired Harbaugh for his first coaching job, and then Harbs hired Cam as OC. Personal interests got in the way of the team goal, thus not a proper way of handling corporate structure as Biscuit is accustomed too. That will be Harbs POSSIBLE undoing.
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12-18-2012, 02:10 PM #21Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
Bye bye Harbaugh nice knowing you.
Time to hire a real coach. Bisciotti unload the brinks truck for Sean Payton.
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
It does know what it was doing, the move was suppossed to be made after the Steeler game in Pittsburgh, but Harbs persuaded him not to change, then the offense got worse and then Harbaugh wanted different Oline coverage packages implemented with leads and Cam outwardly refused and the Ravens turned it over with leads to Pitt and Wash and then was fired for not taking orders, essentially.
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12-18-2012, 02:16 PM #23Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
I don't believe this is JH's last year. The play calling has been called suspect by many. Even so, if the plays that were called were executed properly, maybe the Ravens win at least one of the games against Pitt or DC or even a possibility of winning both and last week's game would be not such a big deal. The Ravens are in the playoffs but if they don't win one of the next two games, they could be a wildcard road team. And Joe on the road would be interesting!
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Re: Jay Glazer: Harbaugh helped Cameron hang on for as long he could until he was finally let go
So you have two teams thinking that the guy is NFL quality. It only makes my point further. If Matteson really sucked and wasn't NFL quality and was only on the team because of his dad, NO ONE would have picked him up when he was cut.
Instead two teams have given him NFL contracts. Maybe it's because he can actually play a little bit.
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