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Thread: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN
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07-14-2013, 09:30 AM #109Hyperbolic curmudgeometer
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Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN
Will someone with access to the original please post a summary of Jaws' rationale for ranking Schlub, I mean Schaub, this high? Cuz I just can't imagine what he sees in that bundle of straw (which according to my Cassell's German Dictionary is what "Schaub" means in Austrian dialect)...
Concur w/ HR re the elevated company. My usually-disinformed guess is that Joe slots at #6, ahead of Eli but below Pigpen.
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07-14-2013, 12:01 PM #110
Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN
I was merely asserting that Super Bowl wins are influenced by many factors outside of a QBs control. Your example of Flacco missing the SB after the drop-and-shank disaster proves my point.
I'm not trying to discredit Flacco in any way. I used that example because it was recent, and we're all intimately familiar with it.
I completely agree that the 2011 team was a great team, and you could argue that they should have won a Super Bowl. IMO the 2011 team probably should have and the 2012 team probably shouldn't have. Just like the Patriots 1st Super Bowl win probably shouldn't have happened because of the tuck rule game, but on the same token you could argue that they should have won at least one of the more recent Super Bowls against the Giants.
IMO Ryan belongs in the same group as Flacco, Ben, and Eli. I was merely trying to head-off the "he hasn't won a Super Bowl" argument.
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07-14-2013, 12:12 PM #111
Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN
I'm not buying the read-option as a "gimmick." There's a legitimate reason it works. On a more traditional NFL running play it's essentially 10 v 11 once the QB hands the ball off. In the read-option, it's essentially 10 v 10 once the decision is made to hand off or not hand off. That's not a gimmick. It's simple math.
I think a fairer criticism of the read option is that it exposes your most valuable player to a greater number of hits.
NFL defenses will certainly get better at defending the option, but it presents a legitimate tactical advantage for offenses. Getting better at defending it won't completely negate that.Last edited by Kyle Cactus; 07-14-2013 at 03:19 PM.
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07-14-2013, 04:37 PM #114
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07-14-2013, 07:15 PM #116Pro Bowl Poster
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07-14-2013, 09:13 PM #118Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN
Schaub is indeed #9
Meh. May be a bit of a stretch but I understood his reasoning.
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07-14-2013, 09:35 PM #119
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07-14-2013, 10:58 PM #120
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You're gonna need to show those stats then.
Joe Flacco was sacked 35 times, and is listed as having 32 rushing attempts. Even if he might have scored or ran out of bounds on half those rushes, that's 51-67 times he would have been taken to the turf by a defender.
Russell Wilson was sacked 33 times and had 94 rushing attempts. Again, giving him maybe 1/2 those rushes where he might not have been tackled, that's still 80-127 times he WAS tackled.
There's just no way I can see where a QB who's getting planted in the turf nearly twice as often (usually by 250lb LBs or 300+lb linemen) isn't going to be more injury-prone.
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