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I agree with pretty much everything you've said except dumping Flacco for Flynn.
#1 - At this point, Flacco has played himself out of a big time contract. No way in hell he is getting a major deal.
#2 - What has Matt Flynn done? He had 1 big game...and that's it. Case and point dude - Joe Philbin didn't even want Flynn enough to get him in Miami and he had NO quarterback there.
Now, if they brought in Flynn as a contingency plan...cool.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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12-16-2012, 06:51 PM #14Legendary RSR Poster
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12-16-2012, 06:53 PM #16Pro Bowl Poster
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12-16-2012, 06:57 PM #18
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I was kinda agreeing with him and addressing other posts at the same time.
Have no prob bringing a decent developmental guy. I think it would be a smart move. Even if Joe took off in a new system that kinda guy can net you a nice pick or two (Eagles with Kolb -Pats with Castle etc). Tyrod Taylor is not that type IMO.“A linebacker's job is to knock out running backs, to knock out receivers, to chase the football,”
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12-16-2012, 07:02 PM #19
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I do because I think most of the guys that are causing the rift in the locker room or have butt heads with Harbs won't be here next year. Ed Reed for one, we've heard from multiple sources that he and Harbs have had run ins. I won't name any other players because it would be speculation but I really don't think those guys that are challenging Harbs authority will be around next year for unrelated reasons, mainly contracts.
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12-16-2012, 07:07 PM #21Regular 1st Stringer
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I have been a Joe supporter since he took over in 2008. After the past three weeks it is obvious to me that Joe is not a franchise QB and that a top tier defense has been able to cover up his deficiencies and those if a 2nd rate coaching staff. If the Ravens sign Joe to a long term high paying contract then they will never be a Super Bowl contender. It is time for changes given the collapse of this team at the most crtical time of the season.
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12-16-2012, 07:08 PM #22Rookie Poster
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This is my issue with this line of thought. Taking all things into consideration, would you feel *significantly* better with Flacco as your starter next year or Russell Wilson? Kaepernick? These were 2nd-3rd round picks that are put in strong positions to succeed. This is the same position we have to put Joe in to be successful, strong running game, dominant defense and good special teams. In order to put together that type of team, you need your QB to be on a low cap number so you can load up on the other aspects of the team. If your QB is going to command a big money deal, then he has to play well enough to make up deficiencies in other places on the team.
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12-16-2012, 07:10 PM #23Hall Of Fame Poster
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Read the post again. He's not one of the worst QBs in the league, he's average. The reason why he's average is that he looks like one of the BEST QBs in the league for a game--or a quarter--and then looks like one of the WORST QBs in the league for a game--or a quarter.
He's consistently inconsistent, and when you put an A+ and an F together, you get what Flacco is: a C to C+.
I just think Flynn is the best option available and he had some success in Green Bay's WCO. Yes, it was only two games, but he didn't look too bad in Seattle during the preseason either. Plus, I really think the thing in Seattle isn't a function of Flynn not being very good, but Russell Wilson being MUCH better than expected. Dude is playing at a really, really, really high level for a rookie, much less a 3rd round rookie.
And regarding Philbin... how good do you really feel about his personnel evaluation? This is a guy who traded away Brandon Marshall leaving a WR depth chart of Brian Hartline, aaand.... some other guys. Oh, and let's not forget, the Dolphins did offer Flynn a contract... it's just that they low-balled him and apparently he didn't like what he saw when he visited there.
I think they can bring Flynn in for only a 3rd or so, and his contract is very cheap. He's the best option for the Ravens to be competitive in 2013, and if he doesn't work out, he's only signed for 2 years so draft a QB in 2014 and let the two of them compete in Flynn's walk year. It's win-win.
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I don't think what we are seeing has anything to do with "getting over" the loss to New England last year and everything to do with the fact that this team has been ravaged by injuries, among a few other things.
I also think Flacco is who he is at this point. I said in the weeks leading up to Cameron's firing and then last week that I wasn't sure we'd see marked improvement when he was "free" from Cam. I also think that you can't totally judge him even now because the offensive line is one of the worst in the league. There were times today when Flacco literally had about 1.5 seconds to throw before a Bronco was on him. I don't think he's as bad as he's played in some of these recent games, but I don't think he's an "elite" guy or will ever be an "elite" guy. I think he is a guy who can win and have success with a solid supporting cast, as some have said above.back on twitter
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