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08-12-2013, 07:06 PM #253Four-eyed Raven
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Re: Ravens are signing Brandon Stokely
Can't blame Hostler for that entire history, he wasn't even in town before 2008. I think he was in San Francisco in 2007.
But I also feel that we've never (as an organization) made the effort to get in a great WR coach. Hell, in 2001 we had Mike Nolan in the role! Then we didn't even replace him when he became DC the following year. Gave the role to David Shaw in 2003 or 4.
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08-12-2013, 07:21 PM #254Four-eyed Raven
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08-12-2013, 07:24 PM #255Legendary RSR Poster
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08-12-2013, 07:35 PM #256Veteran Poster
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08-12-2013, 07:48 PM #257Four-eyed Raven
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08-12-2013, 08:03 PM #259
Re: Ravens are signing Brandon Stokely
The elephant in the room is being missed on the offense. Joe and the recievers played all year and were very average. The increased production in the playoffs is not a result of Joe and the receivers all magically getting better at once. Two overlooked things happened to the offense that were key to the Super Bowl run.
The reshuffled OL was giving Joe a cleaner pocket and more time to throw then he had all year.
Caldwell's influence on the playbook, they threw much more across the middle of the field.
We learned that if Joe has enough time with a clean pocket he can be very accurate. Any receiver with his feet not stuck in mud is going to get open eventually. In Stokely's case, he has flypaper hands and will be fine.
Is this fantasy obsessed world the OL is not as sexy as the skill players and are often ignored, but they were the real unsung heroes of the post season. Denver had the top team sack totals in the NFL last year and they were neutralized by our OL, a huge key to winning. The one sack I felt was a coverage sack more than the line breaking down. Caldwell opening up the middle of the field is obvious when you compare the shotgun like spray of throws charted between him and Cam. The offense has enough playmakers. Joe and receivers will only be as good as the OL.
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08-12-2013, 08:06 PM #260Four-eyed Raven
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Re: Ravens are signing Brandon Stokely
A big part of Ozzie's cred with players is built on the tradition that he will reward the home-grown Pro Bowler. Suggs got paid, Ngata got paid, Reed got paid, Rice got paid, Flacco got paid. If Suggs has another great season this year, I don't think there's any chance the Ravens front office fucks with him.
They might extend him, convert some of his salary to signing bonus to reduce his cap hit, etc: all those tricks. But they won't move him. He's too obviously the heir apparent to Lewis in leadership, too obviously the poster child for the home-drafted Raven who becomes a star, too obviously the Ravens best defender.
Now if Suggs deteriorates, like Reed did his last few seasons, then sure, Ozzie will let Suggs go. But if he plays like we think he's going to play, Suggs will be here in 2014.
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Re: Ravens are signing Brandon Stokely
Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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08-12-2013, 08:15 PM #262Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Ravens are signing Brandon Stokely
Joe's pocket presence improved dramatically after Caldwell took over and the o-line improved. Caldwell's playcalling and the improved o-line made Joe much more comfortable IMO. Caldwell was moving the pocket much more than Cam ever did, and he was mixing up between short and long drops to keep the launch point moving. It's harder for a pass rusher to tee off on a QB if he doesn't know where the QB will be.
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Re: Ravens are signing Brandon Stokely
Matusz has been one of their best relievers since they put him in that role middle of last year. I think you are selling him a little short, but that is a conversation for another thread. I do get your point and the comparison, just feel a great player and a good player out of Doss, Thompson, Mellette, Brown, and Williams, who are all mid to late round or undrafted players, would absolutely thrill the Ravens.
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08-12-2013, 08:27 PM #264
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