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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR



    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    Well just agree to disagree then because the way you feel about Gaither getting to much hate is how I feel about Oher shouldering much more blame than he should.
    ok fair enough. He's got the feet.... I'll give him that.




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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    you obviously are forgetting the nearly two years of solid- to - great play he had here, as well as the 5 games for San Diego. He certainly wasn't a waste of space the FEW TIMES that he was a top 10 left tackle playing for peanuts.

    Listen, I understand he's a Lazy POS, and Baltimore fans were watching the O's game that night, but anyone that saw him get hurt in the second to last snap of that game(it was sunday or monday night, can't remember the opponent right now) would KNOW FOR SURE the injury is REAL. Dude is hurt. Sucks to be him, and anyone on his team paying his salary. There is absolutely NOTHING mythical about his injury.

    And Suggs didn't see through anyhting last year when they played, he didn't get past Gaither once all game.

    I get it, we're supposed to hate him, but geez, he could have been one of if not the best LT in football. He ISN'T and almost certainly WON'T, but he could have and we had him here for peanuts. It's a missed opportunity.
    Harbaugh tried to get him to understand that he had to take better care of his body of this would happen. Gaither didn't listen. In the end, to everyone's dismay, Gaither still got what he wanted. Harbaugh tried everything. He tried talking to him behind the scenes. That didn't work. He called him out in public. That worked for, what, a week of OTAs? He switched the two tackles when he showed up out of shape at mini-camp. That didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    MANY of HIS doctors since he left have found the injury very easy to diagnose.
    Fixed it for you.

    And if its "very easy to diagnose" why have two teams now signed him since he left Bmore? Are they both incompetent that they could not diagnose his alleged back problems?

    And can you stop with the hater nonsense? Just because we have differing opinions doesn't mean we hate him. I can give two shits about Gaither.
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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Harbaugh tried to get him to understand that he had to take better care of his body of this would happen. Gaither didn't listen. In the end, to everyone's dismay, Gaither still got what he wanted. Harbaugh tried everything. He tried talking to him behind the scenes. That didn't work. He called him out in public. That worked for, what, a week of OTAs? He switched the two tackles when he showed up out of shape at mini-camp. That didn't work.
    Agreed, though I don't think much of any of that is the proper way to motivate someone like Jared. Most of that PROVED to be very demotivating, as most should have expected. The "switch" did percisely what I expected, which was to take away any internal motivation Gaither had(that little tiny sliver) and make him want to play for any team BUT Baltimore. Ithought it was plain as day that is what would happen, to be honest.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Fixed it for you.

    And if its "very easy to diagnose" why have two teams now signed him since he left Bmore? Are they both incompetent that they could not diagnose his alleged back problems?

    And can you stop with the hater nonsense? Just because we have differing opinions doesn't mean we hate him. I can give two shits about Gaither.
    please don't change my words and claim it's my quote. I'd report you to the mods, but.....

    Oaklands Doctors saw it too, and now San Diego's as well. Those aren't his doctors.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    please don't change my words and claim it's my quote. I'd report you to the mods, but.....

    Oaklands Doctors saw it too, and now San Diego's as well. Those aren't his doctors.
    Relax. The "fixed it for you" meme is a common use of message board sarcasm, one I am fairly certain you've used as well.

    I think you need to take a step back if this debate is bothering you that much.

    Back on point, got a link that says those teams doctors diagnosed him similar to his doctors? I'd love to see it and would be willing to eat my words.
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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    So, why hasn't Gaither been motivated to play for any other team?
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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Relax. The "fixed it for you" meme is a common use of message board sarcasm, one I am fairly certain you've used as well.

    I think you need to take a step back if this debate is bothering you that much.

    Back on point, got a link that says those teams doctors diagnosed him similar to his doctors? I'd love to see it and would be willing to eat my words.
    i get it... and i do it, but not usually to specifically chang someone's words to somehtign they would not agree with.
    He failed a physical in Oakland, and is on IR, i thought it was fairly self explanatory. Being that my little research led me to the fac tthat he is on IR with a GROIN injury, I stopped looking The groin is certainly connected to the back, but is absolutely a different part of the body.

    I really can't remember what that primetime game was this year where he lost the game on the final snap... I was flipping back and forth between that and the O's game, I think vs NY but it may have been vs Texas, the wild card game. Regardless, anyone that saw that play could see that he was VERY CLEARLY injured. It was eearily similar to the famed Joey Porter pushing Todd Heap at the LOS play. He was in that much obvious pain. Unsurprisingly to some, prior to that second to last snap, that was the best game of football I have seen out of a LT in a few years. He was COMPLETELY dominating whomever they put near him in both the run and pass games.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    So, why hasn't Gaither been motivated to play for any other team?
    frankly, becuase his head is shoved far up his own arse...

    and he's been injured.

    I'm done saying it was a bad move that we moved on from him, I've walked back in that regard. I still think that anyone wlling to motivate different people in different ways would have done a better job motivating HIM then "my way or the highway" Harbs, but Harbs way has worked very well, and I can't argue with that, Except in the LONE instance of Gaither, whom it seems wasn't worthy of special treatment.




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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCool5 View Post
    If he had any commitment in him at all, he would still be here. He and Joe would be growing together, ala Unitas and Parker. What a tragedy and waste of talent.

    Please don't compare that piece of crap with Unitas and Parker. They played for the love of the game. Gaither for GREED! He finally got his big pay day and is now laying on the beach with a big smile. Thankfully Ozzie suspected that, I am sure.




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    I think jonboy is actually gaither posting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    I think jonboy is actually gaither posting.


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    because Gaither would call himself a Lazy POS with his head up his own arse? ok, wow.




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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    frankly, becuase his head is shoved far up his own arse...

    and he's been injured.

    I'm done saying it was a bad move that we moved on from him, I've walked back in that regard. I still think that anyone wlling to motivate different people in different ways would have done a better job motivating HIM then "my way or the highway" Harbs, but Harbs way has worked very well, and I can't argue with that, Except in the LONE instance of Gaither, whom it seems wasn't worthy of special treatment.
    How would you have motivated Gaither, or tried to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    i get it... and i do it, but not usually to specifically chang someone's words to somehtign they would not agree with.
    He failed a physical in Oakland, and is on IR, i thought it was fairly self explanatory. Being that my little research led me to the fac tthat he is on IR with a GROIN injury, I stopped looking The groin is certainly connected to the back, but is absolutely a different part of the body.
    He failed a conditioning test in Oakland. He was not diagnosed by ANY team doctor about a back issue, which was what is asking for.
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    Re: Chargers place Jared Gaither on IR

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    How would you have motivated Gaither, or tried to?
    Me? Lot sof little milestones. Public acknowledgement of meeting those milestones.
    You want him to come in the offseason for OPTIONAL workouts? The physical handing out of $100 bills for coming to each workout would likely have worked. He seems like he would be motivated by days off. IF he gets to certain weight/strength milestones give him a day off. Sometimes for these types of people it's even more motivating to see SOMEONE ELSE get the "bonus" for meeting a milestone you should have. Let's say Cheeseburger got down to a certain weight, and got a nice public congratulations and a day off, that might be as motivating as Gaither doing the same. Persona;lly, I don't know him well enough to know for sure, but it seems that public acknowledgement of succes would go a long way with him. I've found in my maagement career that literally handing out CASH publicly is the great motivator. I wonder why bountygate was so rampant throughout the league? Hundreds of dollars to millionaires? Oh it's the pride portion of it that was successful. Maybe have Madden Tournaments after the Optional workouts. Lots of things to try.
    Taking away ones job, and giving it to a player that everyone knows is less talented, but a harder worker, is about the least motivational tactic I have ever heard of.




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