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11-23-2012, 09:24 AM #169Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
I don't see Houston beating the Patriots in the playoffs. They can get away with those mistakes against bad teams like Detroit and Jax, but the Patriots will make them pay. Plus, the Patriots will spread them out much like the Jaguars and Lions did. Their defense is not that great when you go 4 wide and double Watt. Stafford had all day to throw for a good part of the game.
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11-23-2012, 10:12 AM #170
Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
That thought crossed my mind also. I'd have to see the actual wording of the rule, but as explained, the team that had the benefit of the call could short-circuit the review process by throwing the challenge flag on their own touchdown.
It is, by far, the dumbest rule I've ever heard of in any sport. "You threw the challenge flag on a play that automatically gets reviewed, so now we won't review it. Neener Neener." Absurd.
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11-23-2012, 10:21 AM #171Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
I can't see what could stop Houston from throwing the red flag. If they did, no review could take place. The TD would be confirmed since no review would take place. The unsportmanlike conduct penalty for throwing the red flag would occur on the kickoff. Could you imagine the conversation with the ref and the Houston coach when the ref comes over to ask what you're challenging:
Ref: What are you challenging?
Coach: I'm challenging my runner was down, knee and elbow, on the play.
Ref: You must be nuts! You can't throw a red flag on a automatic booth review. Unsportsmanlike conduct, 15 yards on the kickoff. And NO REVIEW at all for you citing Rule 15 section 9.
Coach: I am nuts! And thank you for the TD!Last edited by SNAFU; 11-23-2012 at 10:41 AM.
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11-23-2012, 11:35 AM #172Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
Houston is the team to beat. Their last two games have not been pretty but to play 10 quarters of football 4 days apart and come out victorious is pretty damn impressive to me. Everyone keeps knocking the Ravens for how they arrived at their 8-2 record, as a fanbase I would expect all of us to appreciate how Houston has arrived at their record as well and recognized that they are clearly in the driver's seat for the #1 seed as of right now. I'm fully aware that they argueably have the toughest remaining 5 games.
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11-23-2012, 11:52 AM #173Veteran Poster
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
Yeah. I saw one of the talking heads claim the rule only prevents "favorable" reviews, whatever that means. I see no such language in rule book. Though I suppose one could argue that your coach committing a foul would not be considered a foul to "prevent" their own (next) snap.
The bottomline is the league and this rule are a joke. Arbitrarily deciding to refuse to correct their own refs' errors as some kind of penalty (in addition to the unsportsmanlike penalty) to a team that is just trying to prevent the refs from massively affecting the outcome of the game in the first place is just dumb. The replacement refs at no point in any of their games affected the outcome as much as the utter disgraceful call and non-review. Even the inane Seattle/GB ending, though absurd, can be argued to be some kind of (mis)judgment call.
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11-23-2012, 12:53 PM #174Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
I wish someone would present this unique situation to the NFL offices. I would like a clear answer to this situation. If any NFL head coach knew this is legal, can you imagine the problems it would cause. Any head coach could throw an illegal red flag to prevent a booth review if it's to their advantage. Asinine!
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11-23-2012, 01:01 PM #175“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
–Eleanor Roosevelt
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11-23-2012, 03:20 PM #176iggyman555 Guest
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11-23-2012, 03:34 PM #177Regular 1st Stringer
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11-23-2012, 03:54 PM #178Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
It's almost like they made a rule up, it sounded good in theory then when it was actually applied all of a sudden it isn't so good after all. Hmm
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Game(s) Thread
there should be commons sense applied at all times. Give the Lions a 15 yard penalty for throwing the red flag, no problem. But get the play right, geez
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11-23-2012, 06:29 PM #180Legendary RSR Poster
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