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    what do you attribute the ravens success to?



    the ravens have one of the toughest schedules in the league.

    The Ravens offense ranks 21st in yards per game (338.7) and the defense is 25th in yards allowed per game (382.3).

    yet we are 8-2. it has to be the culture on the team of a hard hitting team first mentality.

    besides jones's punt return for a TD the biggest play in the pissburg game was pollard seperating the ball from cotchery with his hard hit at midfield with 24 seconds left. if that perfect pass was caught the steelers had a chance for a tying FG with one more completion.

    the ravens just know how to win.




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    I agree.

    I think that the red zone defense cannot be overlooked. Teams can rack up yards all day long, but points win games...not yards.

    Second, the offense has made plays when they had to. It isnt the high flying circus we see in Green Bay, but it works and they have found ways to win.

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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    People put far too much stock in yardage rankings. They really don't mean a lot.




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    Yardage means jackshit. We are 7th in PPG on offense and 5th in PPG allowed by the D. THOSE are the stats that matter.




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    Yardage means jackshit. We are 7th in PPG on offense and 5th in PPG allowed by the D. THOSE are the stats that matter.
    Bingo. I believe the redzone D is still ranked first, and the offense redzone efficiency is up there. Points >> yards




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    Making plays on both sides when it counted (for the most part).

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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    Honestly it has to be Flacco.

    I think that every player in that locker room believes that Joe can bring us back in any game.
    He may never lead the NFL in any QB statistic, but there is no doubt that he can win the big games for us.
    Aside from two games he has delivered whenever we have needed him this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenelite28 View Post
    Honestly it has to be Flacco.

    I think that every player in that locker room believes that Joe can bring us back in any game.
    He may never lead the NFL in any QB statistic, but there is no doubt that he can win the big games for us.
    Aside from two games he has delivered whenever we have needed him this year.
    It is flacco. Some people don't want to admit it but he's been the constant here since 08. We've historically had a good defense but we haven't won consistently until flacco.

    He delivered in the eagles game but the replacement refs took away a td.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    It is flacco. Some people don't want to admit it but he's been the constant here since 08. We've historically had a good defense but we haven't won consistently until flacco.

    He delivered in the eagles game but the replacement refs took away a td.


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    Yea the Jones TD should have counted, but Joe had a chance at the end and he failed. Not a big deal since nobody is perfect in comebacks.

    Whats crazy is that the Ravens have a very real chance of finishing with the best record or even tied for it. If that happens you won't find one person picking or even suggesting Flacco for MVP.
    Everyone has ragged on our defense, for good reason, all year and yet we keep winning. Flacco is the reason.
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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    Stats only tell a part of the story.

    The 2012 Baltimore Ravens seem to be a team that just cares about wins. No matter how they get there, no matter how many yards they give up or gain, all they want is a win. This is truly a team. Each man playing for the other.




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    As I have contended in another thread I believe we are seeing the effects of a truly well rounded effort - not super in any one area but excellent in most. And that includes things like front office, cap control, depth of players, drafting, ownership - as well as all the things that happen during the 60 minutes of play.

    The totality of the effort is what makes a winner. When one part of the team fails a bit, other parts rise to help out.




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    Offensively

    We basically are creating the same amount of offense, with a bit more pass, and a bit less run - but more efficient in the red zone.

    Red Zone Eff..
    2011 51.02%
    2012 61.29%

    Turnovers..
    2011 1.5/gm
    2012 0.9/gm

    Through 10 games in 2011, we had 18 TOs... 10 games in 2012... 9 TOs

    Defensively

    Opponents Red Zone Eff..
    2011 38.10%
    2012 35.14%

    Through 10 games in 2011 29 red zone attempts, through 10 games in 2012... 37 - more attempts, less efficiency for opponents

    Turnovers..
    2011 1.63/gm
    2012 2.10/gm

    We had 26 INT/FR on D all last (regular) season, and if you recall (I bet you do), 7 of those were in the first game. We have 21 this year through 10 games.

    What they have lacked in other areas, they made up for, albeit some close calls.

    STs
    Return threat speaks for itself...


    On the negative side:

    Sacks
    2011 3.0/gm
    2012 1.67/gm

    I think we see more pressure as Suggs and Ngata get healthier - which we will need with the list of QBs we are about to face..




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    TBH, they are similar to the Chiefs in they have an amazing roster of talent, but unbearable coaching (both offensively and defensively). However, they have enough talent to pull out wins. This team, despite being 8-2 (sounds ridiculous), is playing far under their potential




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    TBH, they are similar to the Chiefs in they have an amazing roster of talent, but unbearable coaching (both offensively and defensively). However, they have enough talent to pull out wins. This team, despite being 8-2 (sounds ridiculous), is playing far under their potential
    That may be true, or it may be very far from the truth, it really is hard for any fan to know that, especially with an 8-2 team. We can sit here and complain about the offensive play calling for good reason at times, and we can sit here and complain about the defensive calls, but at the end of the day, we've been winning for 5 years straight now, with pretty much the same system through out. If the coaching was so bad, we would have ended up being like what the Jets are like now.

    We have talent everywhere but our defense gives up a chunk of yards simply because we have so many injured players not playing, or playing hurt on our D. We have a former 7th round pick as our number 1 corner, a special teams ace playing the other side, and a bunch of undrafted players in out front 7. If anything, our coaching staff deserves a little credit for what they've done with such an inexperienced playerbase on defense.

    Offensive wise we have one of the most talented groups in the NFL, no questions, and to me it has to be a coaching issue that we can't go on the road and play lights out like we do at home. There is a big difference between home and away, I am aware of that, but it can't make that much of a difference to arguably the best offense in football while playing at home and turning into one of the most average and predicable, stale, and 1960 style offenses on the road.




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    Re: what do you attribute the ravens success to?

    And to answer the OPs good question.

    I think yes, Joe Flacco is having his best season to date, and is a big reason why we are 8-2, especially at home. On the road he needs to be more consistent, no questions about that, but at least he's played for the most part mistake free football.

    I think a big reason why we are 8-2 is because of our turnover ratio yet again we are up there with the best. We are +12 in turnover ratio, tied for second in the league with the Bears. Turnover ratio doesn't always determine the best teams, but more times than not, teams win when they are in the +'s.

    Defense turns the ball over a ton, they are first in the league for turnovers on 3rd down, that's a HUGE stat IMO. We are the number 1 redzone defense for like the 3rd time in 4 years, very important statistic, arguably just as important as yards. Then you have the most important one, points scored and given up, we are top 10 in both of those areas.

    This team is not that different from teams in the past, the only difference really is yards given up, and a hugely upgraded offense in progress. Our defense gives up chunks of yards, and that's either on the players, or the change in schemes, or most probably a bit of both. Either way, as crazy as this may sound, or no matter what people say about the D when we give up a first down, we are still a good defense if you look past the yards.

    The most important thing that we need to improve if we want to get to the SB, is 3rd down conversions on both sides of the ball, we seem to be terrible at both.




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