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11-21-2012, 08:03 AM #50Veteran Poster
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Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
In all fairness the Ravens running game was terrible all night. The Steelers expected run. The chance of it actually working were also very low. I I can understand the pass but here is where you line up in a running formation and pass. Play action with short routes would have been the passing call.
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Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
What bothers me about short yardage situations is they drafted Bernard Pierce to be that short yardage back because he is almost 4 inches taller than Rice and 20lbs heavier.
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11-21-2012, 01:54 PM #53Veteran Poster
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Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
That's funny because in his interview during the pre-season he said he weighed in at around 230lbs.
The listed weights on BR.com aren't 100% accurate. I mean, they have Ngata listed at 330lbs, but there is no way he is 330. He even said he put on weight to get back up to 345.
Finally, that isn't even the point. They drafted Pierce because they weren't happy with their short-yardage abilities last year. Pierce even mentions this in other interviews from the summer about how they want him to be the guy who can pick up those tough yards on 3rd and goal, etc.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
I don't think that's entirely true, if anything I think he was drafted for the explosive element he offers, he's actually more of a zone runner than a power scheme runner. If the Ravens where really desperate for a power runner, they would have taken Robert Turbin. If they really drafted him to be a power back, he'd have gotten a load more carries on 3rd and shorts this year, but Rice and Leach are the only backs that have ran it on 3rd and shorts so far. They seem to bring Pierce in for shotgun draw plays and stretch runs more than they do with Rice.
I also really doubt that Pierce is 230 lbs, he was listed 218 lbs at the combine, and he really doesn't look that big, he looks more along the lines of a Darren McFadden/Ryan Matthews type build.
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11-21-2012, 03:32 PM #57
Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
Agreed.
I don't think you should be basing a decision like that on stats from prior games - you have to look at what's been happening in that game.
I would have been perfectly fine with a run, but passing wasn't that bad of a call - especially if you say you have faith in Flacco. OTOH, like you, if they were going to pass, I think play action would have made far more sense.
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11-21-2012, 04:33 PM #59
Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
The safe play, the "playing not to lose" play, was the running play. The pass play was a ballsy call and I am happy they did it. As for 50% success mentioned upthread, a short pass has a MUCH higher chance than 50%. Joe is over 50% including all of those deep throws.
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11-21-2012, 05:07 PM #60
Re: "100% Completion or take a sack..." - ???
I am not necessarily against calling the pass play itself, but the way they went about it. First, their formation gave the pass away. The element of surprise was non-existent. Second, telling Joe "100% or take the sack." I don't like that at all. If you want to show some confidence in Joe, call it like any other play and treat it as such. Throwing in that line probably made Joe think "no way in hell I throw this ball" and you could see he pretty much reacted like that. I would bet if they didn't say that to Joe, he completes the pass to a wide open Torrey Smith and the game would have been over.
Last edited by RavensDomination; 11-23-2012 at 06:36 PM. Reason: spelling
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