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Thread: Obligatory Fire Cam Thread
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11-19-2012, 01:15 AM #37Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Obligatory Fire Cam Thread
The play wasn't "executed" because Flacco is too smart to throw the ball there.
And yeah, I'm happy we won... but that's not the point of this thread. Cam's got to go. I've been willing to give him a pass up until that play call. It's over now. You can't give away strategic advantages in the NFL and expect me to defend you.
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11-19-2012, 01:16 AM #38Legendary RSR Poster
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11-19-2012, 01:16 AM #39On The Practice Squad
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Re: 3rd and 2
That call was amazing. There are times when you have to have the guts to go WIN the game, but geez, that was way beyond guts. That just seemed reckless. Don't you have a run play that you have a reasonable degree of confidence in to get you 2 yards??
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Re: Obligatory Fire Cam Thread
You can pitch the execution word all day, just like Cam. If your strategy sucks and the players don't by it and/or the Defense executes better because they know what you are going to do anyway than it is moot. Defense has to execute too and it's not hard against Cam. Some times you just have to rely on good ole statistics. Let me think if we call a SG pass play what are the negatives (INC (stops the clock), INT (even worse), strip sack). If we run, get stopped short (clock keeps running, [positive], fumble (not as likely, keep 2 hands on the ball the whole time). Line up Jumbo and run the stretch to the right that worked for 3-4 yards all night.
Pass = 3 negatives
Run = 1 negative
You decide.....
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11-19-2012, 01:19 AM #41
Re: 3rd and 2
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11-19-2012, 01:19 AM #42Veteran Poster
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Re: 3rd and 2
The call was indescribably stupid, no doubt, but I think if someone is wide open you definitely throw it. Of course something can go wrong, but you don't lose the game if it does, you just give the other team another 35 seconds. On the flip-side, a first down (nothing goes wrong) wins the game.
So there is a trade-off involved here, but using reasonable assumptions it is never worth it, mainly because, as you said, the odds of throwing for it would never be significantly (enough) better than the odds of running for it. But I suspect Cameron deluded himself into thinking we had literally a 0% chance of running for it, and his "genius" of throwing it would mean someone would be wide open and the odds we make it throwing it would be like 90% (in his mind). Of course this is nonsense, but Cameron seemed to be thinking something along these lines; that or he was trying to lose the game.
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11-19-2012, 01:19 AM #43
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11-19-2012, 01:29 AM #45On The Practice Squad
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Re: 3rd and 2
It seems to me the only way you even consider throwing it in that situation (and even then, I don't think you should) would be to have Joe up under center and play action to a short dump off pass.
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Re: Obligatory Fire Cam Thread
You did see me "flush" myself, right?
In all seriousness, I don't think anyone can defend that play call. No even Cam. Lets say Big Ben is playing; do you want to give him the ball back with around a minute left? Thats how Cam has to call the game at that point. He cannot give them the ball and that call was wrong on so many levels at that point.
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11-19-2012, 01:31 AM #47
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11-19-2012, 01:33 AM #48Veteran Poster
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