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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh



    There are multiple ways to win. Jimmie Johnson and Belichick are two completely different types of coaches, but both have won 3 rings. Who's to say one style is better than another?




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    All of those coaches have SB wins.
    John will have his soon enough




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    A head coach's job is to manage the entire team, not be a O or D coordinator.
    I agree with this. I also agree with R75 - Flacco should have gotten that game ball back then.




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    There are multiple ways to win. Jimmie Johnson and Belichick are two completely different types of coaches, but both have won 3 rings. Who's to say one style is better than another?
    Johnson only won 2 Super Bowls.




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post




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    It was interesting to hear the tidbit about Joe Flacco faking the audible to get the safeties to move up, to set up the original play call. For those who aren't aware, Peyton Manning is absolutely notorious for doing that. There is only one man that Joe could have learned that from: Jim Caldwell.
    "When questioned, the Elders explained that they were in search of magical powers. However, they're actually searching for the whereabouts of a certain ring. This ring is a legendary treasure that long ago was known to exist"




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    I don't have a problem with Harbaugh giving Cameron props. When you win as big as the Ravens did, it truly is a total team win. Every player executed and the coaches game planned and called plays well. They deserve credit.




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    Do you really believe that not giving Joe a game ball affects him? If you do, I want what you are on. If you ask any Ravens player about Joe, they are behind him 100%.

    Also, the Ravens will be the only team to ever make the playoffs 5 consecutive times under Harbaugh and Flacco if they make the playoffs this year. You are seriously crazy if you think Harbaugh would get fired. He's been a fantastic coach for the Ravens.
    A good manager knows that his performers are the ones that he needs to instill the most confidence in as well as jerk their proverbial chain. Look at how Mike Tomlin handles his team. It's about THE PLAYERS not the coaches. Coach those guys up and get them to perform at a high level. Who gives a fuck about a play caller. You can make the greatest call in the history of the game and if the players don't EXECUTE then it doesn't mean dick. Look at the genius in NE. He's probably making great calls on defense but his team isn't executing.

    Joe at that time (and even now) was getting destroyed by the media, players and others. He even had doubters in his own locker room(and if you think that's really changed see Ed Reed 2011). Why not give him the game ball? I remember when they showed that Cam game ball clip and you had a few players that had a look of 'is he serious'.

    Lastly I don't give a fuck how much Harbs has won, if he can't get over the top because of stubborness to change then he should be fired. Denny Green won a lot and where'd that leave him? The Chin was notoriously stubborn and until someone told him he couldn't have his way (ie drafting Shawn Andrews over Ben) the Steelers didn't get it done. Harbaugh is a good coach no doubt but we don't need another Andy Reid which is to say good but always falling short. We're in a division with a HC who seems to get it and worse wins titles. I get if Harbs pushes all the right buttons and he just falls short but he seems intent on doing things his way (ie acting as if Cam and his coaches (includes Moeller and Rosburg) are bigger than the players). The Mattison hire damn near destroyed the foundation of this defense. Fortunately higher powers pushed for a change.

    Hopefully this will help you understand where I am coming from. BTW I forgive you for your personal shots and your completely assinine post.

    Have a good day paintjobguy




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens75 View Post
    A good manager knows that his performers are the ones that he needs to instill the most confidence in as well as jerk their proverbial chain. Look at how Mike Tomlin handles his team. It's about THE PLAYERS not the coaches. Coach those guys up and get them to perform at a high level. Who gives a fuck about a play caller. You can make the greatest call in the history of the game and if the players don't EXECUTE then it doesn't mean dick. Look at the genius in NE. He's probably making great calls on defense but his team isn't executing.

    Joe at that time (and even now) was getting destroyed by the media, players and others. He even had doubters in his own locker room(and if you think that's really changed see Ed Reed 2011). Why not give him the game ball? I remember when they showed that Cam game ball clip and you had a few players that had a look of 'is he serious'.

    Lastly I don't give a fuck how much Harbs has won, if he can't get over the top because of stubborness to change then he should be fired. Denny Green won a lot and where'd that leave him? The Chin was notoriously stubborn and until someone told him he couldn't have his way (ie drafting Shawn Andrews over Ben) the Steelers didn't get it done. Harbaugh is a good coach no doubt but we don't need another Andy Reid which is to say good but always falling short. We're in a division with a HC who seems to get it and worse wins titles. I get if Harbs pushes all the right buttons and he just falls short but he seems intent on doing things his way (ie acting as if Cam and his coaches (includes Moeller and Rosburg) are bigger than the players). The Mattison hire damn near destroyed the foundation of this defense. Fortunately higher powers pushed for a change.

    Hopefully this will help you understand where I am coming from. BTW I forgive you for your personal shots and your completely assinine post.

    Have a good day paintjobguy
    We were a dropped pass/missed chipshot away from a superbowl appearance last year. Harbaugh has consistently put this team in a place to win every year he's been here. It's not his fault that Lee Evans couldn't catch a routine pass or Cundiff couldn't make a chip shot. And look who isn't on the team anymore... Harbaugh is a good coach. He knows what he's doing.




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens75 View Post
    A good manager knows that his performers are the ones that he needs to instill the most confidence in as well as jerk their proverbial chain. Look at how Mike Tomlin handles his team. It's about THE PLAYERS not the coaches. Coach those guys up and get them to perform at a high level. Who gives a fuck about a play caller. You can make the greatest call in the history of the game and if the players don't EXECUTE then it doesn't mean dick. Look at the genius in NE. He's probably making great calls on defense but his team isn't executing.

    Joe at that time (and even now) was getting destroyed by the media, players and others. He even had doubters in his own locker room(and if you think that's really changed see Ed Reed 2011). Why not give him the game ball? I remember when they showed that Cam game ball clip and you had a few players that had a look of 'is he serious'.

    Lastly I don't give a fuck how much Harbs has won, if he can't get over the top because of stubborness to change then he should be fired. Denny Green won a lot and where'd that leave him? The Chin was notoriously stubborn and until someone told him he couldn't have his way (ie drafting Shawn Andrews over Ben) the Steelers didn't get it done. Harbaugh is a good coach no doubt but we don't need another Andy Reid which is to say good but always falling short. We're in a division with a HC who seems to get it and worse wins titles. I get if Harbs pushes all the right buttons and he just falls short but he seems intent on doing things his way (ie acting as if Cam and his coaches (includes Moeller and Rosburg) are bigger than the players). The Mattison hire damn near destroyed the foundation of this defense. Fortunately higher powers pushed for a change.

    Hopefully this will help you understand where I am coming from. BTW I forgive you for your personal shots and your completely assinine post.

    Have a good day paintjobguy
    We were a dropped pass/missed chipshot away from a superbowl appearance last year. Harbaugh has consistently put this team in a place to win every year he's been here. It's not his fault that Lee Evans couldn't catch a routine pass or Cundiff couldn't make a chip shot. And look who isn't on the team anymore... Harbaugh is a good coach. I believe he's forgot more about football than you will ever know.




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    We were a dropped pass/missed chipshot away from a superbowl appearance last year. Harbaugh has consistently put this team in a place to win every year he's been here. It's not his fault that Lee Evans couldn't catch a routine pass or Cundiff couldn't make a chip shot. And look who isn't on the team anymore... Harbaugh is a good coach. I believe he's forgot more about football than you will ever know.
    It's always the same with the apologists. When we lose, the players don't execute, when Joe engineers a Montana like drive, Cam get's the game ball from Harbaugh. The Patriot game NEVER should have been that close. Fucking Julian Edleman covering Boldin, they should have thrown that way 50 times the whole game.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    It's always the same with the apologists. When we lose, the players don't execute, when Joe engineers a Montana like drive, Cam get's the game ball from Harbaugh. The Patriot game NEVER should have been that close. Fucking Julian Edleman covering Boldin, they should have thrown that way 50 times the whole game.
    I'm not an apologist. I'm a realist. In reality, we've consistently been to the playoffs every year since Harbaugh has been here. So what are you going to do? Fire him and bring in who?




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    Re: SoundFX: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    I'm not an apologist. I'm a realist. In reality, we've consistently been to the playoffs every year since Harbaugh has been here. So what are you going to do? Fire him and bring in who?
    And that translated into how many Super Bowl victories? (while being not mic'd up in a Super Bowl he hasn't participated at).

    No, we are tied to his ass for at least another three to four years, while being mic'd up from time to time.

    Who would I bring in? That is for another thread...




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