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11-13-2012, 04:14 PM #109On The Practice Squad
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Re: Big Ben
I guess you didn't watch last night's game. Or really any Ravens-Steelers game in recent years. The media always looks for a narrative for why the Flacco couldn't beat the Steelers for a period of time when the teams are so equally matched., with the prevailing theory being that Roethlisberger is the difference and he just outplays Flacco. Since 2009:
Flacco vs Steelers (average/game): 20-34, 232 yards, 1.4 TDs (10 in 7 games), 0.4 INTs (3 in 10 games), 88.5 QB Rating
Roethlisberger vs Ravens (average/game): 20-36, 269 yards, 1.2 TDs (6 in 5 games), 1.2 INTs (6 in 5 games), 77.4 QB Rating
Clearly the difference isn't Roethlisberger. Meanwhile the Ravens have a huge advantage at RB so....Perhaps it's the fact that the Ravens have had 3 TDs called back by penalty in those games (I'd be SHOCKED if the Steelers had 3 TDs called back in their last two full SEASONS) and ALL THREE were questionable (at best) calls:
1). Holding penalty on Kelly Washington to negate a Willis McGahee TD when the Ravens had ALL of the momentum.
2). Holding penalty on Edgar Jones (IIRC) to negate the Lardarius Webb TD that would have put the Ravens up in the final minutes of the AFC Championship game.
3). Holding penalty on Torrey Smith to negate an 80 yard TD run by Ray Rice on the first play from scrimmage in Pittsburgh (after the Steelers were absolutely dismantled from the get-go in the first Ravens-Steelers game, think that would have affected the Steelers' psyche?)
This isn't even close to the worst indictment of Steelers games being rigged. Just watching the games will show that when the Steelers really need a W, the refs will come through for them (again, what is the explanation for why they go 3-0 before losing on the last play against the Ravens with Charlie Batch at QB? Isn't Roethlisberger supposed to be their whole offense?)
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Re: Big Ben
Based on initial reports and various reporters and having a SC Joint issue with rib issues as well looks like he will miss 3 weeks to 3 months, based a degree of sprain. Then how effective is he if he plays is another question? He played on a bum ankle last year and was pretty bad if you remember for a while.
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Re: Big Ben
This. Steelers always get the bail out call. Like last night with late flags ticky tack or imagery penalty flags hitting the ground, usually having nothing to do with the play. The offensive PI on Moeaki was lousy, bailed out by a 4th and 15 catch. The holding penalty on the Cheif lineman so weak 10 yards after the play, cmon. The Steeler OLine was tackling the Chief dline the whole night.
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11-13-2012, 04:22 PM #113
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I think it's pretty serious, if he could have finished that game, being as close as it was and playing a conference game that other divisional and conference teams have played and won, they wouldn't risk keeping him out of the game if he could finish it, ben might be out for a few weeks.
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11-13-2012, 04:25 PM #114
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I can't believe people still buy into the Jen "injury" drama. He was legitimately hurt last night, not questioning that, but it could have been something that was hurting last night but is overall minor.
I'll believe the rumored severity of it if he isn't out there at 8:20 on Sunday. Until then, it should be looked at as typical Big Jen pre-Ravens drama. We've seen this too many times to believe it's anything more than that.back on twitter
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11-13-2012, 04:46 PM #116
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Re: Big Ben
Tomlin noted in his presser today it was a Sprained SC joint:
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/1...oulder-sprain/
It was the injury that took down Farve's streak:
Check out #19 on this list:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...s&sportCat=nfl
And this:
http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/9629...ac-injury-.htm
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11-13-2012, 04:59 PM #118Legendary RSR Poster
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That doesnt sound good
19. Sprained sternoclavicular (SC) joint, right shoulder
Year: 2010
Favre file: Finally forced to miss start versus New York Giants.
Feels like: Very, very painful. Swelling and tenderness in the front of the chest. The SC joint attaches the collarbone to the breastbone -- in essence, the arm to the body -- which means most upper-body motions are affected. Worst case scenario: An unstable collarbone can compress major blood vessels, including the jugular vein and aorta.
Standard treatment: Requires careful evaluation by a specialist. Less severe cases require ice, anti-inflammatories, wearing a sling for a few weeks and rehab with range-of-motion exercises. More severe cases require surgery to rebuild torn ligaments.
Average recovery time: Three weeks to more than three months.
Weekend warrior impact: Your status as a jeans-wearin', backyard football all-time quarterback may be in doubt. "It's typically an extremely difficult injury from which to recover fully," Millett says. "Especially for an overhead-throwing athlete."
Additional thanks to Dr. Joshua Zimmerman of the Human Motion Institute at Raritan Bay Medical Center, Dr. Bill Moutzouros of the Henry Ford Medical Group, Dr. Patrick McCulloch of the Methodist Center for Sports Medicine in Houston and the Minneapolis Star-Tribune for cataloging many of Favre's career injuries and subsequent performances.
Patrick Hruby is a freelance writer and ESPN.com contributor. Contact him at PatrickHruby.net.
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11-13-2012, 06:06 PM #119
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11-13-2012, 06:12 PM #120Legendary RSR Poster
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