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    As much as I like to agree he is a drama queen with injuries, I agree with ^LB. He is really hurt. I saw the injury. You don't get sent to the hospital if it wasn't serious. They are sweating in Pittsburgh beyond just playing us. This could hose their entire season.

    Personally, I'd like to see him, Ray, Lardarius all on the field. But that's the way it goes.

    I don't know that you change the game plan at all regardless of who is in the QB, so I don't think this effects the Raven's game plan. If anything, his absence makes it easier, cut and dry, end of story.




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    No matter if Ben is in or out, the Ravens offense still has to go against a Steelers defense that is playing way better than the Ravens defense. The Ravens offense is terrible on the road. Could be one of those field goal battles.




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    Ben is a drama queen, but he is also very tough... He feeds on the attention. No doubt about it. We can't say anything based on what we officially know. A sprain can mean any number of things.... A Separation of the AC joint is specific. Grade 1,2, or 3 each mean something different. Grade 1 one could mean as little as he could work it out all week and take some ibuprofen before the game. Grade 2 means he could miss a week, and play it by ear.... Grade 3 means potential surgery.

    Grade 2 and 3 are mechanical/structural changes in the joint. That means inflammation, severe pain, and weakness. There are certain movements that are fine and don't cause much pain with even a grade 2 separation... Throwing motion is not one of them. Add the weight of a football and you have trouble. And then there are risks of more injury from impacts.... This means if he has a grade 2 or 3 he will sit this week and probably more.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Hell be out there with a bright colored sleeve or different set of shoulder pads or something ridiculous to draw attention to his injury and how "tough" he is. Until he doesnt play ill just assume hes milking the publicity. Hes an ass and quite frankly they looked like shit when he was playing, so who cares if he does play. The Steelers are very beatable regardless.
    Yup - at least 75 % of the pregame will be dedicated to reviewing his past 'injuries' and how he is near immortal. He'll play, now he has an excuse if he plays poorly




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    So now your saying that the Steelers are going to beat us with Leftwich starting? Are you a redskins fan or something... damn.
    No, First off I was joking a little about Leftwitch... But I'm also saying it's not a gimme either. Is that so wrong?




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    Quote Originally Posted by kronusthebonus View Post
    No matter if Ben is in or out, the Ravens offense still has to go against a Steelers defense that is playing way better than the Ravens defense. The Ravens offense is terrible on the road. Could be one of those field goal battles.
    I don't think they are terrible, they are 2-2 on the road, and have played terrible in patches, but have still won 2 games on the road, terrible would be 0-4 or 1-3. Our running game has been pretty good on the road, and our offense has came up when we needed them to, like in the Browns game. I think it's fair to say that our offense is incredibly inconsistent on the road, but terrible is too harsh.

    I think if Jen sits this one out, the stillers defense will stop our offense for the first few phases of the game, but Leftwich isn't going to move the chains consistently enough, and their defense is going to be on the field for long periods of time. Jen managed to mask the Olines woes in pass pro, but Leftwich does not have that elusiveness in the pocket, and Suggs could have a field day with Mike Adams. The best bet is for the Steelers to run the ball 30 + times, but the Ravens haven't been all that bad against the run since the Cowboys game, so Isac Redman or Dwyer isn't going to be enough to win them the game with 9 men in the box without the presence of Roethlisberger.

    I easily had this as a loss before the season, but with Jen out, I can see us winning this by a comfortable margin.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I honestly don't understand the narrow minded comments from people that are so sure that he will play. Yes, there is no question that Jen has had a history of bigging up his injuries, and coming back trying to look tough when it really hasn't been all that serious, but there has also been many times when he has legitimately missed games, especially games the week straight after the game, he missed a few games last year because of the ankle sprain, it's not like he played in all of them. I know people want to assume he'll play because it's the Ravens in prime time, but honestly, a sprained shoulder is a sprained shoulder, not even an idiot would play with a sprained shoulder. Ed Dickson sprained his shoulder and missed the full pre season, and that was only said to be minor (grade 1), nobody even knows what the grade is right now.

    There is of course the possibility that it really is't that serious, but by the looks of it, he did fall on his shoulder in an awkward position and it was enough to cause him so sit out for the rest of the game.
    Reverse psychology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkins Fury View Post
    No, First off I was joking a little about Leftwitch... But I'm also saying it's not a gimme either. Is that so wrong?
    They could certainly beat us, not saying they can't with Leftwich, but you have to book us as favorites to win it, we've won two on the trot in regular season games at Heinz field, so it's not as if we can't win there or anything.




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    I would honestly prefer if Roethlisberger plays on Sunday. I get sick of hearing excuses from the Steeler crowd about how they would have won if Ben was playing. While it's tougher on the Ravens defense, it certainly makes the game more interesting and doesn't give the Steeler fan base any excuses if and when the Ravens win. JMO FWIW.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Reverse psychology.

    "He'll play (hope I prove myself wrong, but if not I'm not disappointed)"
    Haha true.




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    Quote Originally Posted by palukaraven View Post
    I would honestly prefer if Roethlisberger plays on Sunday. I get sick of hearing excuses from the Steeler crowd about how they would have won if Ben was playing. While it's tougher on the Ravens defense, it certainly makes the game more interesting and doesn't give the Steeler fan base any excuses if and when the Ravens win. JMO FWIW.
    Sorry, but if it gives us a better chance of sweeping the Steelers again, idc who the QB is, they can make all the excuses they want, I will be enjoying watching the wild card teams beat up on each other while I can relax for the week after without having a heart attack watching the Ravens play in Denver or somewhere along those lines.




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    Meanwhile, Suggs is fuming that he put all this effort into coming back in time for the Steelers games and Ben's ass won't be there.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    but you have to book us as favorites to win it, we've won two on the trot in regular season games at Heinz field, so it's not as if we can't win there or anything.
    I agree, but there are a fair amount of people here penciling this in as a sure win.... as if PIT is going to field a D3 college football team. I just have to temper that a little bit.

    This also complicates out prep. If the Steelers play this right, we have to split time preparing for Ben and Leftwich... And if Ben does play, we have only prepped 50% for him. That sucks.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkins Fury View Post
    I agree, but there are a fair amount of people here penciling this in as a sure win.... as if PIT is going to field a D3 college football team. I just have to temper that a little bit.

    This also complicates out prep. If the Steelers play this right, we have to split time preparing for Ben and Leftwich... And if Ben does play, we have only prepped 50% for him. That sucks.
    There is no way the coaching staff isn't going to prepare for Jen, all their focus will be on him, they may bring up one or two clips of Leftwich and that's it. It's not as if you have to be preparing for much anyway.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    they may bring up one or two clips of Leftwich and that's it. It's not as if you have to be preparing for much anyway.
    I believe the coaching staff has videos of some statues to prepare for lefty.




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