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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
It was also the only year that we actually had a 3rd WR that actually got catches. I think that's a big reason we've struggled offensively since the Patriots game (other than the amazing offense in the Cowboys game). Jacoby Jones hasn't been getting catches.
As a disclaimer, there's a chance my memory might be greatly inflating how much of an impact Kelley Washington had. But it seemed like he caught 3 or 4 passes a game for big first downs, and even had a few touchdowns. I do remember him getting much, much less catches in the last 5 or 6 games of 2009, and oh what do you know, that's when our offense declined. Though that could have a lot to do with Flacco playing injured.
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11-06-2012, 04:29 PM #14Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
All of those instances you just brought up, Joe Flacco was calling his own shots in the no huddle/shotgun.
There is a theme here and that theme is Cam Cameron does not put players in their best position to succeed, but instead puts them in whatever position HE thinks is best. And he should stop thinking, because 9 times out of 10 he is wrong.
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11-06-2012, 04:47 PM #16Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
Not like hes been much better. We have a better quarterback now. We have ray rice. We have Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith. I guarantee if we gave Billick the OC position now, our offense would be much, much better.
Billicks fault was he was too faithful to Boller
At least with Billick we would throw the ball over the middle
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11-06-2012, 05:19 PM #18Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
Using total yards is silly.
I came up with a QB ranking system that I'm working on, the basic concept being adjusting QB rating to account for schedule. I.e. Philip Rivers has a QB Rating of 86.5 this year despite playing a schedule against teams that average 99.7. Hence, he is a below average QB this season.
The way it works is I have ranked the performance of each game against a given opponent. Of the 9 games the bengals have played Flacco has the highest QB rating, so he earns a score of 1. Of the 8 games the Chiefs have played, Flacco registered the lowest QB rating (by far) so he earned a score of 8. By taking the average score across all games played you get a more fairly adjusted stat that simply yards or QB rating because a guy like Tony Romo, who has played a brutal schedule, is being unfairly judged.
Unsurprisingly, Flacco has been below average this year. Mainly on the road where his games have been outright dreadful (7th out of 8 against Houston, 7th out of 8 in Cleveland 2, 7th out of 8 against Philly, dead last against KC). Using this metric, he has an overall ranking of 19 across the league.
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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11-06-2012, 06:38 PM #21Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
While that is true, over five years that will normalize out, because it's a fairly safe assumption that no one team has a monopoly on defensive/special teams TDs for five years straight.
So far for this year, the top ten teams in offensive yardage are a combined 43-38, while the top ten scoring teams are 54-29. While neither shows particularly great correlation to victory, it's fair to say that scoring is the better of the two, and I doubt that would significantly change comparing other years.
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11-06-2012, 06:58 PM #22Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
Don't think anyone is saying that PPG is misleading in terms of who is going to win. Obviously, if you score more points than everyone else, your odds of winning are good; whether it's w/ offense, defense, and/or special teams.
But I think what some are saying is that PPG by itself is misleading in measuring Offensive Output specifically, and in this case, Cam Cameron's performance individually.
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11-09-2012, 10:34 AM #23Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
I'd say that you'd have to be concerned that a coordinator has been with the same team for 5 seasons, and nobody's interviewed him to be their head coach yet.
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Re: Offense Rankings since Joe/Cam have been here
Total yardage rankings are always very misleading.
Too many teams are racking up big numbers in garbage time, and skewing the whole thing.
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