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    So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Our offense has been the same story for about 3-4 years now.

    Joe Flacco will be good one game, horrible the next.

    Ray Rice will be completely under-utilized throughout random games of the year.

    Our offense cant make adjustments.

    Our offense has zero creativity.

    Even with the countless receivers weve had, we still cant find one to consistently beat press coverage.

    Our offensive line is crap.

    Our offense has "communication issues......" 5 years down the road....

    So what exactly have they done to improve our offense? They sign Anquan Boldin and try to use him like hes freaking calvin johnson or aj green.

    They sign vonta leach only to have him under-used.

    They sign washed up veterans for offense.. outside of vonta leach and aquan.

    This isnt meant to be an attack, but an honest question - what have we done to make our offense better?

    Year in and year out, nothing changes. Same old story, different year.

    My conclusion? Complete fault of the coaching staff.





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    I think the executive-FO has done pretty well drafting and resigning good, young talent.
    Grubbs got away, but no team should ever pay $60M to their offensive guards IMO.
    The Boldin trade was a very positive move, though not quite as beneficial as originally thought/hoped.
    Dickson was a significant miss not by just looking at his raw performance, but b/c Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez were both still on the board when we took Dickson.

    I can't fault the personnel moves too much at all b/c other than what StevieB was ready to offer ATL to get Matt Ryan, I'm not sure what deals/trades we've tried to do, but could not find a partner for.

    I've consistently pointed the finger at Cammie for our offensive struggles, until this year whereas I'm putting our OL woes on Ozzie's shoulders...granted we've had to absorb numerous injuries and drama with the unit, which hasn't helped at all.





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I think the executive-FO has done pretty well drafting and resigning good, young talent.
    Grubbs got away, but no team should ever pay $60M to their offensive guards IMO.
    The Boldin trade was a very positive move, though not quite as beneficial as originally thought/hoped.
    Dickson was a significant miss not by just looking at his raw performance, but b/c Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez were both still on the board when we took Dickson.

    I can't fault the personnel moves too much at all b/c other than what StevieB was ready to offer ATL to get Matt Ryan, I'm not sure what deals/trades we've tried to do, but could not find a partner for.

    I've consistently pointed the finger at Cammie for our offensive struggles, until this year whereas I'm putting our OL woes on Ozzie's shoulders...granted we've had to absorb numerous injuries and drama with the unit, which hasn't helped at all.
    I agree with you. Cam should go, but he hasn't been given a great hand to play here. The O line is below average and has no depth. And the O line coach is questionable at best. They have, IMHO, over-rated Flacco and have failed to build a team and a system around him.

    Our drafting overall has some blemishes lately. Oz/FO have relied too much on Ed/Ray/Haloti/Sizzle, and have failed to draft the next wave of players to move into their places.





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Overcoming late fourth quarter deficits. Going into Pittsburgh and coming back to beat them late in the fourth quarter to clinch a sweep. There has been some improvement from what the offense was. I will say that much.
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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Hey, John Harbaugh has made the playoffs 4 straight years! You can't bitch about any ineptitude because we made the playoffs four straight years. Matter of fact, if you add up making the playoffs four straight years, it equals a Super Bowl right?

    In fact, if we just compress the last four years into one, we are the best team in the NFL right?

    How dare anyone question John Harbaugh. If the team isn't performing, it must be Ozzie's fault for not drafting better right? Invest in a running game and pretend we are the Packers. Aaron Rodgers will be played by Joe Flacco. Of course we won't be running anything THAT creative, lets go with nostalgia! I know, maybe we can dig up an offense from the 70's and hope no one remembers it!

    Even better, we'll keep running the same plays game after game, half after half, year after year. Defenses aren't smart enough to figure that out! Besides, adjustments are SO OVERRATED!





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    Hey, John Harbaugh has made the playoffs 4 straight years! You can't bitch about any ineptitude because we made the playoffs four straight years. Matter of fact, if you add up making the playoffs four straight years, it equals a Super Bowl right?

    In fact, if we just compress the last four years into one, we are the best team in the NFL right?

    How dare anyone question John Harbaugh. If the team isn't performing, it must be Ozzie's fault for not drafting better right? Invest in a running game and pretend we are the Packers. Aaron Rodgers will be played by Joe Flacco. Of course we won't be running anything THAT creative, lets go with nostalgia! I know, maybe we can dig up an offense from the 70's and hope no one remembers it!

    Even better, we'll keep running the same plays game after game, half after half, year after year. Defenses aren't smart enough to figure that out! Besides, adjustments are SO OVERRATED!
    lol you really seem to dislike Harbaugh.

    At the end of the day it is not his fault that our receivers have dropped balls, or that players have made huge fuck ups in clutch moments in the play offs. IMO Harbaugh has done all he could do get this team to the SB, and some of the players that Ozzie bought in failed to come up in the clutch, that's not Harbaughs fault. Yes he has faults, and yes he doesn't jump around screaming "LETS GET A SNACK GUYS AFTER THIS FUCKING GAME" every time the defense gets a sack, he may not be the loudest or energizing guys, but you really don't know what he's like as a coach, you've never trained with the players and with the team day in day out. I will put some blame on him for keeping Cam Cameron all this time, and getting the wrong guys to be the DC (apart from Pagano), but there are many successful coaches that have been stubborn and have done shit like that before.

    And it really is laughable that you bring up the fact that Mike Smith comes from the "Billlick tree" and has touched a SB, and Harbaugh coming fro the "Reid tree", as if that has anything to do with who's the better coach lmao, especially when Mike Smith hasn't won a play off game with the Falcons yet.





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by houstonravensfan View Post
    I agree with you. Cam should go, but he hasn't been given a great hand to play here. The O line is below average and has no depth. And the O line coach is questionable at best. They have, IMHO, over-rated Flacco and have failed to build a team and a system around him.

    Our drafting overall has some blemishes lately. Oz/FO have relied too much on Ed/Ray/Haloti/Sizzle, and have failed to draft the next wave of players to move into their places.
    I am not sure that I can agree that Cam was dealt a bad hand. One of my biggest complaints next to Cam's play calling is the Oline coaching. It has been atrocious under Moeller. Players are not progressing and Moeller reports to Cam. The other problem is that Cam's archaic offense puts immense pressure on the oline. His passing plays are slow developing plays. The receives just do not get separation. The league is far too advanced to run an offense that lacks creativity.





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by houstonravensfan View Post
    I agree with you. Cam should go, but he hasn't been given a great hand to play here. The O line is below average and has no depth. And the O line coach is questionable at best. They have, IMHO, over-rated Flacco and have failed to build a team and a system around him.

    Our drafting overall has some blemishes lately. Oz/FO have relied too much on Ed/Ray/Haloti/Sizzle, and have failed to draft the next wave of players to move into their places.
    But shouldn't the offensive coordinator find ways to counter their weakenesses? The steelers (supposedly) have a terrible offensive line as well, but they use lots of wide-receiver screens and short crossing patterns to compensate.





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    But shouldn't the offensive coordinator find ways to counter their weakenesses? The steelers (supposedly) have a terrible offensive line as well, but they use lots of wide-receiver screens and short crossing patterns to compensate.
    Yes, and that - IMO - is the biggest contention point of the offense.

    It's not like the Ravens are the only team in the league with a below average to average offensive line.
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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    But shouldn't the offensive coordinator find ways to counter their weakenesses? The steelers (supposedly) have a terrible offensive line as well, but they use lots of wide-receiver screens and short crossing patterns to compensate.
    You mean the same offense that has them one game behind the ravens at 5-3?





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    Re: So what exactly has this organization/coaching staff done in order to improve this offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    You mean the same offense that has them one game behind the ravens at 5-3?
    You know, you keep citing the past, or the obvious, but we are trying to look at a bigger picture here, the rest of the year. If the Raven's continue to play as they have, especially on the road, that 5-3 could easily end up an 9-7.





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