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11-06-2012, 03:07 PM #13
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Re: Ellerbe
McClain actually seemed to be a fairly explosive pass rusher his rookie year. I remember he and Barnes had me quite excited in their limited playing time that year. What possessed the Ravens to move McClain when they had just drafted Gooden and Phillips in back to back seasons at ILB is beyond me.
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11-06-2012, 04:26 PM #14Regular 1st Stringer
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11-06-2012, 07:12 PM #15
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I the limited time he's seen I think he's been our best player on defence.
Just looking a pff stats here. He grades out as the second best ilb at rushing this year behind only Daryl Washington. He has 4 sack 3 hits and 5 hurries. Not bad for a man that was grossly overweight against New England in the playoffs. He is however giving up a 99 QB rating on pass coverage, giving up 24 of 35 targets his way.
In that regard he's been marginally better than Lewis who is just over 100.
The stats back up what I've seen with my eyes. He's been solid in the run, even better rushing the passer, but we still need someone who can cover.
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11-07-2012, 01:13 AM #16Veteran Poster
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Re: Ellerbe
With the new pussified NFL, at least one inside linebacker has to be able to cover and as much as I like Ellerbe in the run game and on the blitz, he is not good in overage.
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11-07-2012, 09:27 AM #19
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Funny under chuck Ps defense not very many people was saying this, on the contrary people were like " where Ray get this fountain of youth" now under piss pees any LB would look like crap, pat willis would like shit under this asshole. Ellerbe is stepping up but cleveland isn't an offensive juggernaut and weeden who is a rookie sure as hell still managed to kill this defense with our corners playing 20yrds off the ball. I hope ellerbe improves, we still need better LBs but to say ellerbe and this defense is playing better without Ray thats just non sense, we got some QBs coming up here soon we shall see.
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11-07-2012, 09:32 AM #20Veteran Poster
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That's a hilarious comment, lol comon man this is game, lets not call people assholes for possibly not getting the best out of the players he has, which is debatable as it may just purely be the players regressing (not that I think that's the case, but we don't know for sure which one it is). Even if he was really as bad as some around here think, it's not fair to label someone an asshole.
Some of the LB's have looked bad because of the ineptitude of our Dline, that's more to blame than Dean Pees IMO.
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11-07-2012, 09:51 AM #22Legendary RSR Poster
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11-07-2012, 12:40 PM #23Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Ellerbe
Ellerbe has been really impressive. I didn't get to watch the Browns game due to Sandy, but it seemed like he played very well. I'm close to saying that he can be a starter for us for a long time, and I hope that we can find a way to retain him. McClain's contract wasn't real big or anything, but I'm thinking that even that deal was a waste. He's just not that special, more of a backup IMO. We definitely need to invest a high pick on an ILB that can team with Ellerbe. I'm also praying that Tyson gets more time.
On a side note, this coaching staff really makes it tough to win games with some of their decisions. Based off that, I'm already guessing a divisional playoff loss. It's way too predictable week in, week out. Don't have the coordinators or the personnel defensively to compete with Houston or NE or Denver for that matter. We will be matched by Pitt too and all those games will be tough dogfights, but it's tough to watch this team... It's the same old story and if getting to the playoffs is good enough for some of you, then I'm sure you enjoy it year in and year out, but to me, it's old. I'd like to actually win the SB for once. We need to get a lot better.
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