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Thread: Dean Pees -- Props or Blame?
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11-15-2012, 08:02 PM #61Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
Learn and adapt? Sounds more like a day late a dollar short. Pees in no rookie DC, he's been around the barn plus a year under Pagano. Was this guy asleep during game planning? The key to Ravens successful D ball has always been naked aggression yields good results. If we wanted to see bend but don't break, we should have retained Gregg Mattison. Pees' moving upstairs means nothing other than he gets a better view of his soft schemes.
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11-15-2012, 09:15 PM #62Regular 1st Stringer
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11-19-2012, 10:34 PM #63Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Dean Pees -- Props or Blame?
When I first started this post it read "Props to Dean Pees" not "Props or Blame?" maybe the mod who changed it on me should change it back?
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11-19-2012, 10:39 PM #64
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11-19-2012, 10:54 PM #65Legendary RSR Poster
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11-20-2012, 05:04 PM #66
Re: Dean Pees -- Props or Blame?
Hmm, didn't say that. You, derogatorially, said he was another "Harbaugh family plan hire". I was just asking what he had to do with Harbaugh's family and why having a previous association with the HC was considered a problem?!?!?!?
Also, if you check Pees record as a DC, it's pretty good - despite what some NE fans may say - so he's certainly proven to be at least "competent". In fact, NE's D since he left has taken a total nose-dive.Last edited by B-more Ravor; 11-20-2012 at 05:13 PM.
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11-21-2012, 11:42 AM #67
Re: Props to Dean Pees
Last time I checked Domonique Foxworth played very well for the 2009 team. Chris Carr and Josh Wilson played CB for the 2010 team, and both played well. Fabian Washington wasn't a terrible cover corner. Frank Walker wasn't even on the team in 2010 and played a backup role in 2009. We still had a HOF named Ed Reed in the secondary as well. So yea, terrible secondary there. So terrible probably 28 other teams would have traded theirs for it.
The 3 man rush you mentioned in the Bengals game I remember, the RB missed his blocking assignment. Under Pagano we showed blitz a lot but then backed off. This was effective since we blitzed a lot and it kept teams guessing. We don't do anything on defense now that has any offense guessing. There are no fancy blitz packages. The classic Ravens defense is on life support, until Rex gets fired and comes back (wishful thinking on my part).
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11-21-2012, 12:24 PM #68Hyperbolic curmudgeometer
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
Has it struck anyone else that the D's improved play over the last couple of weeks coincides with Pees coaching from upstairs during the games? It may be that for him, being able to dial up personnel packages & defenses from a view of the whole field more than outweighs not being able to talk directly with the players while they're on the sidelines.
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11-21-2012, 01:16 PM #69Legendary RSR Poster
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11-21-2012, 01:40 PM #70
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11-21-2012, 02:53 PM #71Hyperbolic curmudgeometer
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Re: Props to Dean Pees
I don't think it's the ability to motivate that's lost (how much there is to be lost is arguable--Pees is their granpas' age) so much as being able to hear directly from the players what they see happening & what they think they can do in response. With Pees upstairs that probably ends up filtered through the position coaches on the sidelines.
Now watch there be an "accidental" communications malfunction at Qualcomm Sunday afternoon....
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11-21-2012, 03:25 PM #72
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I think it also has a lot to do with Suggs return too.
They weren't blitzing much earlier, but they weren't getting to the QB, even with blitzes, so they decided to try and play more cover defense. Now, with Suggs back, I think they feel that they can be more aggressive and because teams have to account for Suggs - which they didn't with anyone else when Suggs wasn't play - it allows the blitzes to be a little more successful too.
Kruger, as your primary rusher, isn't going to do much. Kruger, with Suggs drawing the attention, can/will be a much more successful pass rusher.
Now, if we can get McPhee back up to speed and healthy.....
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