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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    Bad - our run game, too often we get runs of minus yards or 1 to 2 yards. We averaged under four yards a carry, I'd rather a run game that can consistently get 4 yards a pop than one that breaks of a big run every now and then.
    You're serious?

    Rice had 98 yards and a TD and Pierce did a great job as well as a situational back.
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    You have to live with some of those runs for short gains in order for the play action to work effectively.
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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    You're serious?

    Rice had 98 yards and a TD and Pierce did a great job as well as a situational back.
    on 22 carries. We started off 16 runs for 86 yards. Our next 21 rushes went for an abysmal 51 yards. That's under 2.5 yards a carry.

    We started well, then hey made adjustments and cam didnt adjust to that as I said..




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    You just have to stay commited to it. Ray Rice is going to end up in the HOF. The offense must go through him. And now we are seeing the asscension of pierce. Watch...we are going to see much much more running down the stretch. We dont lose when rice gets 25 carries and pierce is making the most of everytime he gets his hand on the ball.




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    I know you have to stick to it, I just would have liked a few quicker shorter passes when they were stuffing the box expecting the run, to give us a better chance running the ball.




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    To steal the Al Davis phrase 'Just win baby!' NFL only pays on the W's, no style points.




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    The Good - Dannell Ellerbe and Courtney Upshaw.

    I thought they were the best defensive players out there today. Even with Ed Reed's pick, he missed some tackles that no player should miss. I thought DeAngelo Tyson, Jimmy, Corey Graham, Art Jones, Suggs, and Ngata all played well too, but Ellerbe and Upshaw were all over the place.

    Also Good - Anquan Boldin, Ray Rice, & Bernard Pierce.

    The offense was great for the 1st quarter and the last half of the 4th quarter. Flacco didn't really make any bad throws other than a throw that looked like he and Torrey were not on the same page and Joe Haden almost picked it. Pierce and Rice were really solid today. Boldin (when they got him involved) was a chain mover.


    The Bad - Ed Reed, Ed Dickson, Torrey Smith, & the OL.

    The OL went into hybernation during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. They got no push and lost a lot of 1-on-1 assignments. Ed Reed dropped two surefire INT's and gave very little effort on tackles. He seems to think that diving at a players legs is a good way to stop someone. Ed and Torrey??? what the hell guys? Dropsies much?

    The Ugly - John Harbaugh, Cam Cameron, Cary Williams.

    Cary - Nice coverage.

    Harbs - You need to get your team to knock it off with the penalties. They're killing drives and just pissing everyone off. Including you. Which is why you're now getting penalties. Thanks coach.

    Cam - What can I say that hasn't been said before? You're incapable of getting this offense to where it needs to be. It's time for you to move on. Preferably to a college team. I believe your offense might work at that level.
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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    You just have to stay commited to it. Ray Rice is going to end up in the HOF. The offense must go through him. And now we are seeing the asscension of pierce. Watch...we are going to see much much more running down the stretch. We dont lose when rice gets 25 carries and pierce is making the most of everytime he gets his hand on the ball.
    You don't "stay committed to" losing football. When you run straight up the middle into a loaded box for 0-1 yards every 1st and 2nd down, you're playing losing football. Why else do you think they had 5 straight 3 and outs? Too many unsuccessful plays on 1st and 2nd down, most of them runs.

    Part of why they ran the ball so well in the 1st quarter were imaginative, unexpected playcalls like the Pierce TD--fake FB dive to outside toss play, that's a play that's going to pick up yards. You have to stay creative on offense--run outside when they expect inside, run inside out of spread formations, play-action, etc. Cam completely forgot those plays after the 1st quarter. Sometimes I wonder if he just gets lazy and stop putting effort into his playcalls... I'm running out of explanations for why he's so terrible.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Ravens are NOT going to win a lot of games with run-run-pass-punt. They could afford to do it last year because they had a better OL that actually got a lot of push up the middle, and a great defense that forced teams to be one dimensional and got stops on 3rd down. Not this year...




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    You don't "stay committed to" losing football. When you run straight up the middle into a loaded box for 0-1 yards every 1st and 2nd down, you're playing losing football. Why else do you think they had 5 straight 3 and outs? Too many unsuccessful plays on 1st and 2nd down, most of them runs.

    Part of why they ran the ball so well in the 1st quarter were imaginative, unexpected playcalls like the Pierce TD--fake FB dive to outside toss play, that's a play that's going to pick up yards. You have to stay creative on offense--run outside when they expect inside, run inside out of spread formations, play-action, etc. Cam completely forgot those plays after the 1st quarter. Sometimes I wonder if he just gets lazy and stop putting effort into his playcalls... I'm running out of explanations for why he's so terrible.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Ravens are NOT going to win a lot of games with run-run-pass-punt. They could afford to do it last year because they had a better OL that actually got a lot of push up the middle, and a great defense that forced teams to be one dimensional and got stops on 3rd down. Not this year...
    It's really almost like Cam has on his chart, "That play worked so it won't again" and crosses it off or something. FINALLY we saw some quick slants out of Boldin and Oh my gosh he moved the chains, than not again.




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    I am still too hot over this steaming pile of s**t they call an offense to comment on that, but I will say as far as good, I thought the defense played a lot better today, even though they gave up some yardage and Richardson had a good day, it's better than what we've seen the past few weeks. Hopefully they keep improving.




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    You don't "stay committed to" losing football...
    You know we won, right? 25-15 ravens

    Stats dont lie...we never lose when rice gets 25+ carries. NEVER




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    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    You know we won, right? 25-15 ravens

    Stats dont lie...we never lose when rice gets 25+ carries. NEVER
    I'm tired of having to explain this, but for the umpteenth time, WE DON'T WIN BECAUSE RAY RICE RUNS THE BALL 25+ TIMES. RAY RICE RUNS THE BALL 25+ TIMES BECAUSE WE'RE WINNING. That stat is so old and tired and useless and it might be literally true, but it has absolutely no predictive value. If it did, the first 25 offensive plays of the game would always be Ray Rice runs--because then the team could just take knees the rest of the game and win, right?

    Every team runs the ball more when they're winning because they want to run out the clock. We led for 50 game minutes... so we ran the ball a lot... running the ball wasn't the CAUSE of the win, it was an EFFECT.




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    The Good

    We won

    Bad and Ugly

    Whatever because we won




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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    You know we won, right? 25-15 ravens

    Stats dont lie...we never lose when rice gets 25+ carries. NEVER
    As if you weren't nervous as hell in, early in the fourth quarter, after what, the fifth straight three and out?
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    Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I'm tired of having to explain this, but for the umpteenth time, WE DON'T WIN BECAUSE RAY RICE RUNS THE BALL 25+ TIMES. RAY RICE RUNS THE BALL 25+ TIMES BECAUSE WE'RE WINNING. That stat is so old and tired and useless and it might be literally true, but it has absolutely no predictive value. If it did, the first 25 offensive plays of the game would always be Ray Rice runs--because then the team could just take knees the rest of the game and win, right?

    Every team runs the ball more when they're winning because they want to run out the clock. We led for 50 game minutes... so we ran the ball a lot... running the ball wasn't the CAUSE of the win, it was an EFFECT.
    I don't agree with that. I don't think its a coincidence that our offense moves the ball more consistently when the running game is working.




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