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Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly
I am still too hot over this steaming pile of s**t they call an offense to comment on that, but I will say as far as good, I thought the defense played a lot better today, even though they gave up some yardage and Richardson had a good day, it's better than what we've seen the past few weeks. Hopefully they keep improving.
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11-04-2012, 08:56 PM #27Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly
I'm tired of having to explain this, but for the umpteenth time, WE DON'T WIN BECAUSE RAY RICE RUNS THE BALL 25+ TIMES. RAY RICE RUNS THE BALL 25+ TIMES BECAUSE WE'RE WINNING. That stat is so old and tired and useless and it might be literally true, but it has absolutely no predictive value. If it did, the first 25 offensive plays of the game would always be Ray Rice runs--because then the team could just take knees the rest of the game and win, right?
Every team runs the ball more when they're winning because they want to run out the clock. We led for 50 game minutes... so we ran the ball a lot... running the ball wasn't the CAUSE of the win, it was an EFFECT.
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11-04-2012, 08:57 PM #28
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Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly
The Good
We won
Bad and Ugly
Whatever because we won
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"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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11-04-2012, 08:59 PM #30
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"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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11-04-2012, 09:15 PM #33Legendary RSR Poster
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Completely false.
I know what you're trying to say. Nobody here is or has ever said that's is as simple as you claim.
When folks say Ray needs to run X amount of times, they are saying they want a balanced attack, not the one dimensional nonsense we saw in TN, Jacksonville and Seattle last season.
Maybe you missed it, but both Q1 TD's were rushes and the drives were very rush heavy.
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Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly
I can't believe how you are so against being a run first team when we got destroyed by the Texas two weeks ago by running a completely one dimensional offense passing the ball, then go in to this game winning it when we ran the ball a bunch of times.
I think this is far from a coincidence, the defense benefits from staying off the field for longer periods of time, and we run more clock in the process. It's obvious to me that we should now be a run first team down the stretch and into the play offs if we make it there, because if we go back into that no huddle crap on the road, we are going to get torn apart in the likes of Heinz Field.
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11-04-2012, 09:40 PM #36Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: My Own Good, Bad, and the Ugly
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. People--including the poster I was responding to as well as media talking heads--CONSTANTLY harp on this stat: "When Ray Rice gets 25 or more carries, the Ravens are 25-0" or some nonsense like that--not sure of the exact numbers.
The implication is that when Ray Rice runs the ball a lot, it causes the Ravens to win. That's nonsense. Always has been, always will be. Running the ball a certain number of times doesn't cause you to win.
Of course the offense needs balance! No sane person thinks that this team is better off (outside of very select personnel packages) with Ray Rice off the field, unless he's taking a breather. He ought to be on the field and he ought to get his work.
But under NO circumstances should we evaluate a game as an effort to get Ray Rice to X number of carries because that causes a win. It doesn't, and case in point this past game--WAY too many 1st and 2nd down runs for a yard or less after the first quarter, and those negative plays really imperiled this team today. The Browns were taking those plays away, and they should have adjusted, preferably by working the short and intermediate passing game outside the box.
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