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    Re: Rogue U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Team



    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    Thanks for the info, Dade.

    As NC said, the bottom line is

    1. we did nothing when it was in our power to do so.

    2. They aren't telling us why, or what exactly happened.
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    There's alot this goverment/military does or doesn't do and the public isn't informed.




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    Re: Rogue U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Team

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    3. And the press will not hold this President accountable for any of it.
    The first place I saw it reported that this wasn't just a riot gone wrong was on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow. It was 3 days after the incident and she killed the White House for it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    There's alot this goverment/military does or doesn't do and the public isn't informed.
    That I understand, but in this instance the public definitely has the right to information, all of it. You can simplify it and say lives were lost as a result of the intended inaction of the government.

    How's it go again, something along the lines of "establish justice, provide for the common defence."

    When the basic foundation for the role of government as outlined by the Constitution is molested, we the people have the right to know why.


    Now, I'm not so naive as to think that we will.
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    This situation reminds me of the movie The Patriot Games. Great flick.

    Correction : The movie Clear and Present Danger

    All those Harrison Ford movies sort of run together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    The first place I saw it reported that this wasn't just a riot gone wrong was on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow. It was 3 days after the incident and she killed the White House for it.
    Oh really?

    First off, I'm talking about the media, not talking head shows. Those are two different animals and if any gets their news from Rush, Maddow, et all they should be stoned to death.

    In any event, here is the transcript from that show ....

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49061994...-september-th/

    ... And from the start of the show, she blames Bush for Middle East anger ...

    But we start with tonight`s top story and with a decision made in
    March 2003, which is when then-President George W. Bush ordered the U.S.- led invasion of Iraq, March 2003 ... That change in policy under George W. Bush was a source of anger and
    controversy.
    Then, she pleads to her audience to listen to Sec of State Clinton frustration about how folks wont believe that it's a video that sparked this attack.

    Then Maddow follows this up by attacking Paul Ryan.

    Please show me where in any if this she even hints at Obama doing something wrong, let alone "killing" him for it?
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    Re: Rogue U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Team

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Oh really?

    First off, I'm talking about the media, not talking head shows. Those are two different animals and if any gets their news from Rush, Maddow, et all they should be stoned to death.

    In any event, here is the transcript from that show ....

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49061994...-september-th/

    ... And from the start of the show, she blames Bush for Middle East anger ...



    Then, she pleads to her audience to listen to Sec of State Clinton frustration about how folks wont believe that it's a video that sparked this attack.

    Then Maddow follows this up by attacking Paul Ryan.

    Please show me where in any if this she even hints at Obama doing something wrong, let alone "killing" him for it?
    Hey! I get my news from Rush!

    Just kidding, I do listen a lot but he doesn't talk about news but maybe 40% of the time.

    I have a question for you though, you watch Maddow?? How can you stomach that crap for an hour!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Hey! I get my news from Rush!

    Just kidding, I do listen a lot but he doesn't talk about news but maybe 40% of the time.

    I have a question for you though, you watch Maddow?? How can you stomach that crap for an hour!?!?
    Read "Art of War".

    It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperilled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperilled in every single battle.
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    Re: Rogue U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Team

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Read "Art of War".
    Good point. I've tried watching her, it just drives me crazy.

    I did watch Lawrence O'donnell the other night, he actually had some good points about voting 3rd party and why, mainly in states that are almost certain to go for a certain candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Good point. I've tried watching her, it just drives me crazy.

    I did watch Lawrence O'donnell the other night, he actually had some good points about voting 3rd party and why, mainly in states that are almost certain to go for a certain candidate.
    I didn't see that but I did vote third party this year.

    Mitt is getting Texas regardless so it felt right to vote Gary Johnson.
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    So hypothetically speaking, let's say Obama gets reelected. How is his administration going to make this benghazi incident go away?

    The clear cut facts that security was requested multiple times in the months coming leading up to the Benghazi attacks, and yet never arrived–despite evidence of an increasing threat seem pretty damning. Not to mention the piles of lies heaped on top of that to divert attention.

    Initially I blew it off, but McCain was right. At least noone died at Watergate.

    The MSM can ignore it and accuse of "politicizing" all they want, but this is a big F'n deal.
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    He doesn't care once he's elected. Nutten's gonna happen to him then.
    Now is the time to do something about him but Gretta and Hannity
    are the only ones that keep talking about the news and only conservatives watch them.

    HR is right about knowing your enemies. Remember the Patton movie where George C. Scott yells "I READ YOUR BOOK ROMMEL, I READ THE BOOK." That was true and Patton anticipated what Rommel would do because he broadcasted his moves before the war even started. It also helped that the British stole Hitler's codes and Patton had advance notice on some of Rommel's battle plans.

    The James Bond movies are based on a real spy run by Ian Flemming and he was Hitler's most trusted agent. There was no one name M but there was a section M in the British Secret Service.

    Hitler suspected leaks from the agent's sector but executed his boss as the traitor. They got the wrong guy. The real double agent convinced Hitler D-Day invasion would be in the north of France. The Germans always out gunned the British but they beat the Germans with their brains and
    trickery.


    Anyway, we lost in Vietnam because no one read Giap's book.
    He said to diverse and split the enemy. We kept spreading ourselves
    out thin all over South Vietnam just like Giap said.

    Westmoreland didn't read the book.
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    Re: Rogue U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Team

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    So hypothetically speaking, let's say Obama gets reelected. How is his administration going to make this benghazi incident go away?

    The clear cut facts that security was requested multiple times in the months coming leading up to the Benghazi attacks, and yet never arrived–despite evidence of an increasing threat seem pretty damning. Not to mention the piles of lies heaped on top of that to divert attention.

    Initially I blew it off, but McCain was right. At least noone died at Watergate.

    The MSM can ignore it and accuse of "politicizing" all they want, but this is a big F'n deal.
    Good point.

    This is a tough one for the President. For all of us who were saying he's a clone of Carter may now have to fix that statement to say, he's a Nixon clone.

    But alas, that would require the MSM to do their job.
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