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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense



    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    What round should he go in?
    Not as draft knowledgeable as others but I see him being around the 4th give or take based on combine numbers. He shows quickness and good 40 time he may go up. He was injured last year so durability is working against him.




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    No idea where, but I read last week that Freeney is struggling in the 3-4 to boot. And as I posted last week, according to PFF.com he's only a slightly better than Kruger vs. the pass, and slightly worse than Kruger vs. the run. Still, his high cost would still be the driving factor behind "no deal".




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Never happen.

    No way Ozzie is going to pick up an LB via FA that wants one last pay day in Freeney. I could see us signing an under the radar kind of player like Conor Barwin though.

    As for Dorsey, too many injuries and is a 4-3 linebacker. I don't see us spending money on a guy who'd end up being a situational LB in our scheme.
    Dorsey is a DE. or a 4-3 DT. I'd take a looksie to place opposite Ngata, and may just be the help we need. Average's about the same aount of tackles as Ngata, but with a few less sacks which is surprising cause thats what he was boosted as coming out of college.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Never happen.

    No way Ozzie is going to pick up an LB via FA that wants one last pay day in Freeney. I could see us signing an under the radar kind of player like Conor Barwin though.

    As for Dorsey, too many injuries and is a 4-3 linebacker. I don't see us spending money on a guy who'd end up being a situational LB in our scheme.
    He'll be 33 by next season. Think anyone will be giving a massive payout to an older linbebacker? I guess there's always that one team, but I was thinking a more cap friendly deal for someone his age and the playing time he will put in.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    Dorsey is a DE. or a 4-3 DT. I'd take a looksie to place opposite Ngata, and may just be the help we need. Average's about the same aount of tackles as Ngata, but with a few less sacks which is surprising cause thats what he was boosted as coming out of college.
    And yes, Dorsey's been oft injured but I agree, him on the opposite side of Ngata would obviously help against the run and still be able to get to the QB.




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MD Boy View Post
    He'll be 33 by next season. Think anyone will be giving a massive payout to an older linbebacker? I guess there's always that one team, but I was thinking a more cap friendly deal for someone his age and the playing time he will put in.


    And yes, Dorsey's been oft injured but I agree, him on the opposite side of Ngata would obviously help against the run and still be able to get to the QB.
    Dunno looked at his stats, started 15 games in 09, all 16 in 2010, 15 in 2011, but banged up this year. Dunno if I'd call that often injured as Ngata has missed more games.




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    Not as draft knowledgeable as others but I see him being around the 4th give or take based on combine numbers. He shows quickness and good 40 time he may go up. He was injured last year so durability is working against him.
    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    What round should he go in?
    Right now the 4th seems like a good assessment. He's kind of built like Art Jones, but a little taller. Like srobert said, he's a good run defender, but he doesn't bring a whole lot to the table as a pass rusher, but I'd be thrilled with him in the 4th or 5th rounds.
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Never happen.

    No way Ozzie is going to pick up an LB via FA that wants one last pay day in Freeney. I could see us signing an under the radar kind of player like Conor Barwin though.

    As for Dorsey, too many injuries and is a 4-3 linebacker. I don't see us spending money on a guy who'd end up being a situational LB in our scheme.
    I'm not quite sure why you'd consider Connor Barwin an "under the radar" player.

    IMO, he is likely to be the top 3-4 player available next spring if the Texans don't re-sign him.
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  8. Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    KLM would be very good rotational player with McPhee. KLM is good against the run and can get solid pressure at times. I am a HUGE ND fan and follow the team very closely.
    I am an alumnus and watch all of their games as well. In addition to being a great fit at 3-4 DE Kapron is the hands-down leader of ND's defensive line, one of the top units in the nation. You aren't named a captain of the ND football team for just being a great player. KLM arguably provides just as much leadership to ND's defense as their other famous captain, Manti Te'o. He has put on 75 pounds since arriving in South Bend and plays around 305, bigger than I thought because he carries it well and has surprising mobility. I agree, his strength is playing the run and occupying blockers. So far he has gathered 29 tackles (11 solo), 4.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 1 PD, 7 QB hurries through 9 games. His 2011 knee injury could hurt his draft stock but he is also a character guy and a big presence in the locker room, hopefully someone the Ravens would be ready to pounce on in the mid- to late rounds.
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Chiefs waived Stanford Routt. Any interest?




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    Chiefs waived Stanford Routt. Any interest?
    Well he has been pretty awful for them... so no. Not really.




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    No interest in Stanford Routt at all. I'd rather see Chykie Brown and/or Asa Jackson out there.
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    srobert:

    What are your thoughts on Zeke Motta and Zack Martin?

    I like Zeke Motta. I think he's pretty underrated. I dont know that I'd spend a high draft pick on him, but as a depth safety/ST's guy I think he could be pretty interesting.

    Regarding Zack Martin: I like him a lot too. I think he's a pretty solid left tackle for the Irish, but I don't know that he could play LT in the pros. If the Ravens move KO over to LT then Martin may not be a bad option to compete for LG/RT.

    ND has a lot of nice players.


    Obviously, I'd LOVE to see Tyler Eiffert on the Ravens squad. I love Pitta, but Eiffert is every bit of the receiver that guys like Gronkowski are. Plus, Eiffert is a good blocker as well. His game reminds me a lot of Jason Witten.
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Anyone think Kevin Minter will declare? I think he would be a great fit in our 3-4 Defense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I'm not quite sure why you'd consider Connor Barwin an "under the radar" player.

    IMO, he is likely to be the top 3-4 player available next spring if the Texans don't re-sign him.
    Nobody is really talking about him. But you're probably right. He's going to go quickly and get paid.
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    What do you guys think about C.J. Mosley? He's Saban's replacement for for Courtney Upshaw. I can't say the Alabama defense has suffered.

    Walterfootball has us using the 27th pick in the draft on him.




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