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10-24-2012, 11:23 AM #25
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I know you don't want to hear it, but I always enjoy listening to me go on and on. Kindle's "story" includes significant "off the field" chapters. DUIs ( w/ and w/o brick walls driven through), fall down go boom @ parties, etc. etc. I'm willing to eschew the label "character risk," but the hearing problems and ongoing narcolepsey condition are together the psychophysiological equal of at least an ACL tear (and neither condition can be fixed). I wonder if this guy has been judged a danger to himself and others on a regular-season NFL field of play.
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I don't see it as a corporate approach. I see it more as the Andy Reid model. Reid was so loyal to one of his guys that he made him DC despite all his coaching experience coming from the offensive side of the ball. He put personal friendship over doing what is right for his team.
I grew up a huge Parcells fan. Bill would always bring in his guys but he was quick to get rid of them when it didn't work out. That's what I wish Harbaugh would do. Bill would never go down with his ship like Reid is. Bill would have built up a new ship and jumped to it.
I don't see Bisciotti really interfering in any of this. I don't see a corporate approach that he's pushed. We've all heard the stories of how close he is with Bart Scott. He didn't force Ozzie to make sure Bart Scott stayed a Raven and he could have if he wanted to. Bisciotti leaves the football decisions to the football people for the most part. I see this as Harbaugh running things the way he wants and not some agenda from above.
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Fine, call it the "Andy Reid almost is good enough" model. And friendship get's in Harbaugh's way when it suits him.
I go with the corporate way is because Biscuit is not a hands off owner. He made a Billion doing it his way and part of that was polling people on Billick. Then, he has a gut feeling and fires him with a 5-11 injury marred squad a year removed from a 13-3 season? Hell, if the Giant's did the same with Coughlin they'd have never won shit. Just because Biscuit is hands off most of the time doesn't mean he hasn't or doesn't meddle when it suits him.
I'm a huge Parcells fan and I wish we had that kind of coach. Meaning like Belicheck or Coughlin, their show or no show at all. Oh wait, we did...
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10-24-2012, 12:03 PM #28Legendary RSR Poster
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Bollocks. He polled people on Billick? Who? Please provide something to back that up.
Everyone owner is hands on when it comes to the hiring of their new head coach. That's nothing new in the league and certainly not a knock on any owner, Bisciotti included.
Edit: Ok, found a few stories on my own, nothing concrete, about the polling. In any event and if true, what's the problem? The larger issue at the time was that Billick lost the locker room, not the losing record. Leaders only have about 5-8 years before their message becomes stale. It was imply BB's time and I am a HUGE BB supporter.Last edited by HoustonRaven; 10-24-2012 at 12:14 PM.
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10-24-2012, 12:10 PM #29Regular 1st Stringer
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http://wnst.net/baltimore-sports/bis...ibility-sinks/
It is written that Dick Cass did the inquiring, but who does he get his marching orders from?
And Houston, I am not saying Steve can't do what he wants, he's the billionaire, I just never agreed with canning Billick. That 2000 Superbowl is looking much farther away then it ever did with Billick. We had arguable the best team over the last few years and shit to show for it in the trophy case.
But by all means, stick to the same thing...
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10-24-2012, 12:15 PM #31Legendary RSR Poster
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My problem is the owner yuking it up with players like Bart and Ray, then asking people what they think of the head coach. It undermines his authority. Billick needed a QB, Ozzie never got him one, end of story end of career.
I never buy the stale story, didn't get stale for the Steelers? They are on what, their 3rd coach and have 7 Super Bowls???
Matter of fact, this is only going to get worse. Steve is committed to the Ravens and lets his partner run his real company so he can focus on the NFL.
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10-24-2012, 12:30 PM #33Legendary RSR Poster
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The rumor you're saying happened stated that Bisciotti went to staff, not players.
As a matter of fact, it did. They moved on from Noll for precisely the same reason. Noll got did precisely dick from 1979 to 1991.
Cowher quit at the height of his success so you can't say either way it was a lost message.
If true, he has one of the best teams in the league in terms of winning percentage and is widely regarded as one of the best franchises in the league. I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with your paranoia.
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Case in point, we are going to overspend on a legendary linebacker next year who has been passed by the play of younger players. Ray should be done, if Parcells ran this team or Belicheck, he'd be done. But Steve and Ray are boys and he will get a pass and come back for a ridiculous 18th year.
Symantics,
Knoll got 11 years to fix it... that is quite a leash.
As for players, I don't have a link but you hear crap on the radio that said the players were involved too, but you can dismiss that as well.
Andy Reid has one of the best percentages too... how many trophies?
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10-24-2012, 12:37 PM #35
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