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    Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations



    And no this is not intentionally a bash cam Cameron thread.

    But I just got through watching Tom Brady march the Patriots down field (TWICE) for touchdowns in the fast no huddle by throwing dinks and dunks out of the shotgun and by running (virtually exclusively) from under center. If Brady's in the shotgun he's throwing - if he's under center the Patriots are running.

    Why don't the Ravens JUST PLAY THE SAME WAY.

    I'm tired of trying to convert third downs with 40 yard passes.




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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    I understand the frustation with that. It frustrates me as well. I think whenever Joe's sees an one on one matchup on the outside he's going deep. I get what he's trying to do but when it's 3rd and 4 or 3, just pick up the first down.




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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    P.S. They won
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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Quote Originally Posted by rharris1986 View Post
    And no this is not intentionally a bash cam Cameron thread.

    But I just got through watching Tom Brady march the Patriots down field (TWICE) for touchdowns in the fast no huddle by throwing dinks and dunks out of the shotgun and by running (virtually exclusively) from under center. If Brady's in the shotgun he's throwing - if he's under center the Patriots are running.

    Why don't the Ravens JUST PLAY THE SAME WAY.

    I'm tired of trying to convert third downs with 40 yard passes.
    Because Harbaugh is a great coach. And shouldn't be questioned. Ever.




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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    P.S. I still want Cam Cameron gone! Have you been able to figure that out yet!

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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Quote Originally Posted by rharris1986 View Post
    P.S. I still want Cam Cameron gone! Have you been able to figure that out yet!
    Yeah I know, you watch each game hoping and praying that they lose. Great life
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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    You take the shit far too seriously. I suggest you either get a life or another hobby.

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    Yeah I know, you watch each game hoping and praying that they lose. Great life




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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    Because Harbaugh is a great coach. And shouldn't be questioned. Ever.
    So now Harbs called that play?

    It gets confusing who to blame for things on this team anymore.

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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Look I am not happy with all the decision in play calling. But if it's 3rd and 4, in theory your best shot IS a shot down the field. The defense gets paid to. They know where you have to get for a first down and anything near that marker is going to be hotly contested. On that one, I don't blame the play call. I blame the execution. Somebody eventually did break free but by the time they did the OL had caved and Joe had already committed to throwing it away.




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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    This has always been my #1 criticism of Cam.. It is just plain f---in stupid to have 3 guys run deep routes on 3rd and short. We gotta move the sticks. I don't understand the logic. I know we won, but you gotta strive for better than 3 for 11 on 3rd down. Shit a Flacco scramble on 3rd down may be the best option if all the WRs/TEs go deep.




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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    So now Harbs called that play?

    It gets confusing who to blame for things on this team anymore.

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    No. But he's the Head Coach. The buck stops with him (no pun intended).




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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Quote Originally Posted by rharris1986 View Post
    You take the shit far too seriously. I suggest you either get a life or another hobby.
    for a guy who hopes they lose every game because of his infatuation with an assistant coach, that's kinda funny. maybe consider therapy? a win is a win despite your obsession
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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    It may very well be their offensive philosophy where they try to "trick" teams into believing they're going for short yardage to gain the first down, but instead go for the kills. It's one of those things where if the play doesn't work, people complain. If the play works, then everyone is happy. Years back, the Ravens notoriously would throw the ball -short- of 1st down yardage in an attempt to get YAC, and everyone hated it. I personally believe in the approach of "attempting" enough yards for the first down, and completing a higher percentage play, before going deep down field. No matter what a team does, it seems the players/coaches can't please everyone, and fans complain.
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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    No. But he's the Head Coach. The buck stops with him (no pun intended).
    If you took a poll of the board, I think 98% of the posters here would have fired Cam years ago.

    He doesn't seem to have a "feel" of the game a lot of the time, and frankly, I think the Coryell offense is severely outdated. I don't know because I don't watch other teams as closely, but while most of the successful "name" offenses like the West Coast, Coryell, Ground Chuck, Run and Shoot, and the spread have been kind of blended and most teams run stuff from each system, it seems to me that Cam (and Harbs since he seems to go right along with it), sticks way too much with stressing the vertical aspect of the Coryell...much like the Raiders. It's almost like we run the Al Davis "run it down your throat and throw it over your heads" with much better players.

    We don't run enough option routes, we don't run enough outside screens, we don't run enough crosses, inside slants and in general, ignore the short/quick passing game that most of the league has gone to.

    But all that being said, Cam is still here, we have won with him, we have almost gotten to the promised land only to have players fail to execute, and frankly, I don't think Harbs is going to fire him so I'm going to support him and maybe we can get over the hump soon with him.

    I can hope that a college team gives him a shot as I think he'd have a lot of success depending on where he goes at that level.
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    Re: Why do the Ravens insist on throwing the ball 40 yards down field on 3rd and 4 or 5 situations

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    No. But he's the Head Coach. The buck stops with him (no pun intended).
    That's right. The buck stops with Harbs. Which means he deserves the credit FOR THE FACT THAT ONCE AGAIN WE WON A FUCKING GAME AND YOU PEOPLE STILL WANT TO ACT LIKE WE'RE THE FUCKING 0-16 LIONS.
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