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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens420 View Post
    id like to know how mckinnie, KO, birk, yanda, oher isnt a better lineup? if a certain jackass could catch, it would have been a superbowl OL, with grubbs replaced by promising rookie.
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    Re: FILMSTUDY: O-Line Grades at the Quarter Pole by player

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    For the love of God read through the forums.
    And you will find NOTHING but MIXED OPINIONS.

    We'd have to SEE that line play to know whether it is better or not.

    I'm also of the mindset that it almost has to be better. I would be very surprised if it were worse, but most likely, at this moment, it's about the same. The current line has more "upside" and "long-term potential" which, in my opinion, is why it's what we continue to see on sundays.




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    Not because McKinnie is highly unreliable and it's questionable whether or not he even deserves a roster spot right now?

    I have absolutely no faith in that guy and would really like to see us go the whole year without him taking a single snap. And that's with me saying Oher's playing C or worse LT right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    And you will find NOTHING but MIXED OPINIONS.

    We'd have to SEE that line play to know whether it is better or not.

    I'm also of the mindset that it almost has to be better. I would be very surprised if it were worse, but most likely, at this moment, it's about the same. The current line has more "upside" and "long-term potential" which, in my opinion, is why it's what we continue to see on sundays.
    The long term is definitely the key. The team would rather not do two things 1) deal with McKinnie in the offseason and 2) spend a high draft pick on another olineman when there's a pressing need for high end talent in our line backing corps. The offense certainly has been able to score points and win football games in spite of the line play, and the hope is that they'll continue to improve as the season progresses.




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    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    Not because McKinnie is highly unreliable and it's questionable whether or not he even deserves a roster spot right now?

    I have absolutely no faith in that guy and would really like to see us go the whole year without him taking a single snap. And that's with me saying Oher's playing C or worse LT right now.

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    McKinnie could easily have the same D, but wouldnt you think KO is a better fit at LG than RT and we all know for a FACT that Oher is much better at RT? Why weaken three positions instead of one? it makes no sense. This is nothing more than harbaugh's doghouse bullcrap costing the team.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: O-Line Grades at the Quarter Pole by player

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    And you will find NOTHING but MIXED OPINIONS.

    We'd have to SEE that line play to know whether it is better or not.

    I'm also of the mindset that it almost has to be better. I would be very surprised if it were worse, but most likely, at this moment, it's about the same. The current line has more "upside" and "long-term potential" which, in my opinion, is why it's what we continue to see on sundays.
    For real. And most of those "opinions" that support this line try to say that its not as bad as we think. now, thanks to film, we have an objective measure of their play. and it f'ing sucks balls. i guess the only way some will get it is if flacco goes down because of oher's bad play.




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    Holy shit. Do people honestly believe that Harbaugh would rather lose games to make a point than win them?
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    Re: FILMSTUDY: O-Line Grades at the Quarter Pole by player

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens420 View Post
    McKinnie could easily have the same D, but wouldnt you think KO is a better fit at LG than RT and we all know for a FACT that Oher is much better at RT? Why weaken three positions instead of one? it makes no sense. This is nothing more than harbaugh's doghouse bullcrap costing the team.
    FilmStudy- What kind of grades were you giving McKinnie's play last year? McKinnie is in better physical shape this year then he was in last year, so there is no reason to believe that he wouldn't play at least as well as he did last year. I remember McKinnie handling James Harrison and a number of other very good pass rushers rather effectively last year, so I would be surprised if FilmStudy had given him a grade of "D".




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: O-Line Grades at the Quarter Pole by player

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    FilmStudy- What kind of grades were you giving McKinnie's play last year? McKinnie is in better physical shape this year then he was in last year, so there is no reason to believe that he wouldn't play at least as well as he did last year. I remember McKinnie handling James Harrison and a number of other very good pass rushers rather effectively last year, so I would be surprised if FilmStudy had given him a grade of "D".
    Or just watch the third pre-season game, where Mckinnie did at least as good as Oher.

    Even if:

    Oher > McKinnie, (which is debatable)

    KO> Harewood @ guard, he cant really be worse
    Oher> KO @ RT where we know he is a B

    If this was so thought out, why did McKinnie start the third game? Why was Harewood's first game at guard the opener? Why didnt that line play ONE snap together in the preseason to gain a little cohesion?




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    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    Holy shit. Do people honestly believe that Harbaugh would rather lose games to make a point than win them?
    Unfortunately...yes.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: O-Line Grades at the Quarter Pole by player

    Looking at the things the offense still has been able to do can you imagine the numbers if Flacco was able to climb the pocket?




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    Hey look...this thread has been hi jacked again by the same 3 or 4 guys who cant figure out that maybe the coaching staff knows what the hell they're doing...


    ..weird...

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    Re: FILMSTUDY: O-Line Grades at the Quarter Pole by player

    Hey at least it's good that we are complaining about an average Oline that has upside, over the usual more worrying signs that have plagued this franchise for years. I'd say about 95 % of this league would love to only have an average Oline to complain about than what they have right now.

    The main worry I have is our LB corps, it really needs upgrading in the offseason, whether that be through the draft or FA. But it's not extremely worrying, especially with Suggs looking to make an earlier than expected return.




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    Very true leach.

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    With McKinnie-Williams-Birk-Yanda-Oher we MIGHT be looking at a line that's 5% better (say a B-) but would definitely be 5 years older. With Harewood and KO they may not be where they need to be yet, but they have a possibility of improving.

    If Gradkowski could supplant Birk (who seems to be physically done), we'd be looking at a very young o-line that would only get better.

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